-=> CHARLES ANGELICH wrote to WAYNE CHIRNSIDE <=-


 WC> Got it working now, the trick is to run the executable the
 WC> first time from true DOS so Win 98 doesn't customize the
 WC> multimail.rc file in the blink of an eye when you answer
 WC> "edit now" 'Y". Once I did that it worked fine and I did
 WC> move MM.EXE to the desktop for the shortcut.

 CA> I will try to remember that one.

As usual figured it out 20 minutes after bitching about it.

 WC>>> Installed Hyperterminal P.E. and got one packet
 WC>>> downloaded alright but need to read the docs as something
 WC>>> didn't go right this morning and the packet wouldn't
 WC>>> decompress.

 CA>>> I seem to recall a similar situation for my brother. I
 CA>>> _think_ he did not have the autodetect for binary/ascii
 CA>>> transfers turned on? Dim and foggy but seems that was it.

 WC> Might have to do with Zclobber, I'll have to save the
 WC> current packet's pointer file sommewhere until I've got the
 WC> download part of Hypertrerminal PE figured out.

 CA> Zclobber is another possible. Sorry I can't be more helpful but
 CA> I don't use Hyperterminal myself. I could check my brother's
 CA> setup. He does use it for FIDO messages.

Zclobber appears to be the culprit, if my download directory
has no existing  whatever.qwk all goes well.
NetTerm is better but Hyperterminal PE is free.

 CA>> I'm not really up to speed on how W9x implements
 CA>> 'shortcuts'. Not clear to me why W9x even has them really.
 CA>> They seem redundant to me.

So you can make, with great effort, it as easy to use
as Win 3.1?

 WC> I'm beginning to get the picture. The reason is for the
 WC> technically nieve but the effect is frustrating to those
 WC> profficient until they catch on. I'm about ready to move
 WC> everything over here, rearrange the room, split the disk
 WC> for Linux and and use primarily this machine now.

 CA> Sounds as though you've made a great deal of progress.

I'm tickled to death and I didn't really read much by way of docs
but intuited it after seeing the results of screwups.
You should see the manual for the H.P. it's written for idiots
and somewhat less than useful for tinkerers.
You're right, for a proprietary system H.P. seems
to have gotten it right :-)
This box won't see it's cover off again unless I upgrade memory or
add a CD burner.


 WC> Went smoothly and Explorer 6 loads the problem page just
 WC> fine. Just under 21.200KB in an hour and 10 minutes.

 CA> You're probably better of with IEx v6 anyhow according to my
 CA> daughter it's much more effective as a WWW browser. Something
 CA> about ActiveX etc. that I don't know much about.


I like Netscape 7.0 but must admit in contrast to the existing
IE I had IE6 is far better and I even like the page layout better.
Figures AOL - Warner would FU Netscape when they bought it out :-(
I'll never use Outlook Express for mail however.

 CA>> Could be. The browsers I have had encryption set to
 CA>> autodetect and turn on/off automatically.

 WC> Same here and now with IE Version 6.0

 CA> Good.

 CA> --8<--cut

 WC> Have you Zone Labs Zone alarm installed, very informative
 WC> about attacks on ports.

 CA> It's on my brother's W98SE machine, yes. That and Ad-Aware but
 CA> I'm reading in usenet that Ad-Aware isn't being maintained and
 CA> up-to-date but haven't tried any of the others. My brother had
 CA> 18 "ET call-home" background tasks running when I first used
 CA> Ad-Aware to remove them. Second time he had 24 more of them!

 CA> Attacks on ports, port scanning, and DoS seem overblown to me.
 CA> Similar to virus scares. I don't think it's all that much of a
 CA> problem really. Zonealarm is there to detect any "ET call-home"
 CA> software attempt to call _out_ from his machine more than for
 CA> any other reason.

About half of my alerts are of that nature but the other half...

 CA> He also has McAfee running to block virus. He has had no virus,
 CA> worms, or anything other than "ET"s that are installed with
 CA> other things he has tried out and installed himself.

I'm thinking of getting Norton antiVirus or Zone Alarm Pro.
This setup is too cool to leave at risk.

 WC>> OTOH my parents regularly blew up bottles making homemade
 WC>> rootbeer.

 CA>> See? Now you go and do it _again_!

 WC> Parents never used a hydrometer whose purpose it is to
 WC> measure specific gravity in the first place. Anyway mine
 WC> will all be stored until ready in the same large plastic
 WC> closed storage unit unit I'll use to clean and sanitize the
 WC> bottles so no big deal. A box to hold 58 bottles can be had
 WC> at Home Depot for about three dollars.

 CA> My mother made homemade ice-cream for awhile using an electric
 CA> ice-cream maker. It was OK but I'm not that fond of ice-cream.

I'm a freak for chocolate frozen yogurt.
Some dried milk, water, Nestle's Quick and a couple scoups
of frozen yogurt shaken vigorously makes
for a great quick treat and a lot less expensive than alternatives.
Gads I love this H.P., slap a CD burner in the extra bay and I'm
in hog heaven.
Wish I could afford a DVD-CD burner though but in time I expect the
price will come down on those too.
Hell my first CD-ROM drive cost me 245 bucks, Creative SoundBlaster
combo 2x deal that still works though retired.
 
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