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echo: r_catholic
to: Syd
from: stumper
date: 2007-03-29 17:13:26
subject: Re: Does God as a meme exist?

From: stumper 

Syd wrote:
> On Mar 28, 5:52 pm, stumper  wrote:
>> Syd wrote:
>>> On Mar 28, 1:39 pm, stumper  wrote:
>>>> Syd wrote:
>>>>> On Mar 28, 10:25 am, stumper
 wrote:
>>>>>> Syd wrote:
>>>>>>> On Mar 27, 4:15 pm, stumper
 wrote:
>>>>>>>> Syd wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Mar 26, 4:21 pm, stumper
 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Syd wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 25, 5:40 pm, stumper
 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Syd wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 25, 10:37 am,
stumper  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Syd wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 24,
8:24 pm, stumper  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Syd wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar
24, 11:30 am, stumper  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Syd wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
On Mar 23, 11:16 pm, stumper  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Jaime G wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
In article ,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
 stumper  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
What makes you think the world is logical?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Define "logical."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
And by "the world," do you mean this particular planet,
the universe, or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
what?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Is everything rational?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
~Stumper
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
You, obviously, aren't.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PDW
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Shouldn't your world view reflect that as well?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
don't know, should it?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PDW
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Have you
ever been curious about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> why some
people kill their own babies?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Have you
ever tried to explain it yourself?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ~Stumper
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PDW
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Have you ever been
curious about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> why bad things
happen to good people?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ~Stumper
>>>>>>>>>>>>> No.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> PDW, "shit happens."
>>>>>>>>>>>> Have you ever been curious about
>>>>>>>>>>>> why bad things happen to you?
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> ~Stumper
>>>>>>>>>>> Not really.
>>>>>>>>>>> It just happens.
>>>>>>>>>>> Mostly my own damn fault.
>>>>>>>>>>> PDW
>>>>>>>>>> Is the world rational?
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> ~Stumper
>>>>>>>>> Not in the US, no...
>>>>>>>>> PDW, who spits on this administration..
>>>>>>>> What makes you think God has to exist
>>>>>>>> in the way you expect?
>>>>>>> I'd settle for you lot presenting evidence he
exist at all.
>>>>>>> PDW
>>>>>> God is prior to the universe.
>>>>>> That is, ontologically speaking.
>>>>>> The Supreme Being is before the universe.
>>>>>> By definition, of course.
>>>>> No.
>>>>>> Nobody is forcing you to adopt that philosophy.
>>>>>> There is nothing wrong with your common sense philosophy.
>>>>>> But if you wanna talk about God as the Supreme Being,
>>>>>> you need to know how.
>>>>>> Basically you need to learn a new language.
>>>>> So do you.
>>>>>> If you are talking about the theistic God,
>>>>>> it probably does not exist.
>>>>>> But as I said, God does not have to exist
>>>>>> in the way expected by you.
>>>>> So, provide evidence he exist at all.
>>>>> That's all we're asking.
>>>>>> We cannot believe in miracles anymore.
>>>>>> We cannot believe in the supernatural anymore.
>>>>>> So, what is your understanding of God
>>>>>> that does not do miracles and is not a supernatural being?
>>>>>> What is this "atheistic" God?
>>>>> I don't know. It's something you theist clowns keep
throwing around.
>>>>> Prolly so you can claim that "Even atheists have god."
>>>>> But your wrong.
>>>>> PDW
>>>> I don't care what you "atheist" here think.
>>>> Unless of course you are willing to
>>>> work with me to figure out what the atheistic God is.
>>> My, how arrogent.
>>> In other words, you expect us to bend to your delusion.
>>> No.
>>>> A famous atheist thinks God is a meme.
>>>> Do you think God exists as a meme?
>>>> Do memes exist?
>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meme
>>> Because, it is.
>>> PDW
>> Does God as a meme exist?
>>
>> --
>> ~Stumper
>
> Um..
> No.
>
> PDW
>

Guess again.

--
~Stumper

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