-=> Quoting Robert Plett to David Hartung <=-
 RP> The Separation of School and State Alliance held its third major
 RP> conference this last November, in Arlington, Virginia.  Their basic
 RP> premise is that in order for real education reform to take place, the
 RP> state must be removed from education altogether.  You can read about
 RP> it and how they conclude poor students would benefit most at:
 RP> http://www.basenet.net/~eagle/educate/1998/jan98/conference.htm
 Thanks, I will check it out.
 DH> of fact, access to education(note, I said education, not schools) has
 DH> been one of the reasons our nation has become the greatest nation this
 DH> world has ever seen. This access was not always provided by the
 DH> government, but has always been there.
 RP> Still would be - parents would see to it, just as they did originally
 RP> in this country.
 Exactly, and as a result the quality of education would go up.
 RP> Whatever they come up with would be far better than
 RP> the public school system we now have - just recently, a city in
 RP> Michigan (think it was Michigan, coulda been Wisconsin) gave a new
 RP> dumbed-down standardized test to every student in the city, and NO ONE
 RP> PASSED! 
 I am not surprised, I am in the Memphis schools regularly, and much of
 what I see is not pretty.
 RP> Teaching at a college part-time places me in the position of working
 RP> with the products of our public education system on a regular basis,
 RP> where direct interaction and observation shows them continuing to get
 RP> worse.  The situation is well beyond pathetic.
 What do you teach, conservatism 101?
 RP> Just saw a news report showing the latest math and science score
 RP> comparisons internationally - the US now ranks 18th of 21 nations.
 Not good.
 david.hartung@mcione.com
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