>>> Mark Bloss on "Existence Exists"
WE> An omniscient being is just a know it all. That's the only thing it
WE> can do. Are sure you don't mean omnipotent beings that can do
WE> unimaginably numerous things?
MB>
MB> Sure; and since they know infinite things, then whatever they do
MB> would be just precisely what is needed, when its needed, as its
MB> needed.
Not necessarily. An omniscient being could also be an impotent being. Some
lazy bother that could always tell you the right thing to do but never lift a
figure to help.
MB> Oh yeah! Well, I just left 4 zeros off my number - it was a typo -
MB> I meant 100^100000, so there! Nyah nyah Na nyah nyah... pfft.
Larger than a googol but but much much smaller than a googolplex. So until
you can out do the dictionary, I will wait before topping your puny
enumerations
WE> There's a proof that there are no uninteresting integers. Can you
WE> prove that there are no boring attributes of an omnipotent being?
MB> I suppose. You tell me your proof and I'll tell you mine... ;-)
Boredom is an boring attribute. Now if there was an uninteresting integer,
there would be a smallest uninteresting integer. It would be of some
interest to discover the this first uninteresting number.
MB> Sure there is - but there are differences between some integers and
MB> other integers, and differences between one deity and another - so
MB> obviously there has to be _some_ differences between integers and
MB> deities too.
Indeed, integers are very orderly, the smaller coming before the larger. As
for deities, they squabble about who should come before whom.
MB> Okay, you can always add one deity to any previous deity, to create a
MB> new deity, regardless of how many deities there are already.
If you dare, you'll get the eternal wrath of a googol of perplex theists. -)
MB> Actually, any sufficiently large number is indistinguishable from
MB> any other sufficiently large number - because our brains are finite.
How big is sufficiently large? Inaccessible cardinal numbers are infinite
numbers so large that no formulas are possible to describe them. It's
dubious that any exist yet there can never be any proof to show that.
WE> It's a googol. A googolplex is very much much larger. Look in a
WE> dictionary to find out how much larger. What to bet any number that
WE> you can imagine, I can conjure a larger. I raise you a googolplex. -)
MB> Gee, I don't know if we have enough space in fidonet to post it. ;)
A googolplex is 10^googol or 10^10^100 or more clearly 10^(10^100)
The rather small (10^10)^100 is much closer to a googol than a googolplex.
So there, it's been posted. -)
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