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echo: r_catholic
to: ChapelMouse
from: Dan
date: 2007-03-29 11:33:28
subject: Re: Anglican Study Guide: Listening to Gay and Lesbian People

From: "Dan" 

On Mar 29, 12:01 pm, ChapelMouse  wrote:
> Dan wrote:
>
> 
>
> >> There is a big difference. We don't have identity cards with our
> >> sexual preference specified.
> > This is not strictly true. There is a segment of the gay population
> > whose identity is pretty obvious to one and all. In men, this is
> > usually because of what most people would characterize as effeminate
> > behaviors. There is good reason to believe that this is often not a
> > matter of choice. These are the people who have been and who are most
> > vulnerable to discrimination and abusive treatment. They are a
> > "visible minority".
>
> In addition, there are people who are not gay, but who don't fit
> the cultural image of a "real man" or "real woman."  These
> people also catch fallout from the hatred of gay people and are
> attacked as well.

This is exactly what I said to Carter in my next post to him.

>There are gay people who are hyper-masculine
> or hyper-feminine in appearance and activity, or simply ordinary
> looking and acting, like the protagonists in "Brokeback Mountain"
> too.  "Gaydar" is not always accurate. :)

Of course. Perhaps if you read the whole conversation between me and
Carter, you will understand why I  disagree with neither of these comments.

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