On Wed, 17 Dec 2014, John Kelly wrote to Holger Granholm:

-> but talk is cheap!

 JK> Lacking facts, they make personal attacks. Trolls, they are. 

attacks were started by one party and now they seem to simply be being
returned... perhaps all involved need to just tone things done or make it
obvious that joking and carrying on are being done with no animosity or ill
will intended ;)

this is, actually, how the mess gets started in many message areas...
fidonet is not the only place... usenet is horrendous with it because folks
make a quip without knowing the other party and things go south from
there...

)\/(ark