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| subject: | Re: [OS2HW] Re: PSU specs |
Hello All Because there has been at least 2 threads regarding power supplies and their specs and also because the newest Computer Power User magazine has a terrific interview with the founder of PC Power & Cooling I thought I might pass a few tidbits on, though some of you probably already know this stuff. Having worked in electronics most of my life I have a healthy respect for power supplies that work and a similarly healthy suspicion when repairing some piece of equipment that doesn't work since it literally does all the work. While I know this stuff it's nice to see it put succinctly and with real world numbers to help it make more intuitive sense. Here goes. Most manufacturers post specs that are a result of operating at 25 degrees Centigrade. Considering there will likely be a good 15C rise just in the PSU these specs only are good if ambient in your room is 10C which is in the 50's fahrenheit. Thus very often a PSU rated at 400 Watts is really only 300 watts at real world temps, unless you've spent hundreds of dollars on some active refrigeration, like VapoChill. Water cooling might help but I've yet to see one that has a water block for the PSU, though reducing internal case temp rise would help some. A far more important consideration is how that wattage is divided among the rails. All of the hardware that consumes relatively high amounts of current are on the +12v rail, so having massive 5v amperage ability does little good except possibly to the manufacturer. A further consideration is the duration of peak power which is what handles startup unless your machine is on 24/7. There is no need for complicated sequential spinup if the PSU has sufficient peak power duration. The last bit of which he speaks in the interview surprised me even though I am well aware of efficiency and on-demand current draw. Sinmply put a larger PSU (more wattage) doesn't mean higher electric bills. I knew that the supply has a lower limit idle current and that it only delivers more on demand but I didn't know anybody had greatly improved efficiency. Dodson claims their new 850 watt supply is so efficient ( 85% !!!) that at 10 cents a kwh it uses $65/yr (or $330 over the 5year guaranteed lifespan) less house current than many 500 watt PSU's that are typically in the 70% category. I guess the boys at PC Power & Cooling got real upset when Antec started encroaching on their territory and decided on a roundhouse punch. In my experience their are other decent PSUs out there besides PC&PC but they are correct about specmanship since few companies have stopped using the "pie in the sky" 25C even though PC&PC has been touting this difference for decades. I guess most of the others figure on consumer ignorance and in many areas it's a safe bet. Anyway, be certain when you are calculating your wattage needs that you pay attention to the +12 volt rails essentially exclusively or you may end up wondering why your system is unstable and underpowered. Hope this helps. Jimmy ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/9rHolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/os2hardware/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: os2hardware-unsubscribe{at}yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ---* Origin: Waldo's Place USA Internet Gateway (1:3634/1000) SEEN-BY: 633/267 270 5030/786 @PATH: 3634/1000 12 106/2000 633/267 |
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