> My particular personality sometimes requires seperation from the
> things I talk about...
BK>ROFLMAO! Well I could have fun with this considering all
BK>the things that went through my mind.. but.. well.. ;)
        Oh, go for it.  I like the BBS/Fidonet world because in person,
 I often wind up pegging the a**hole meter.  In the world of glowing
 phosphor dots, I can sound *much* more reasonable.
BK>Now if Lucas had written the script in the style that is currently in use 
at
BK>the franchise.. everything except dialog would be left out,
BK>including camera set ups, etc. Then the script would have
BK>been turned over to the various production staff (not
BK>including Lucas, depending), and the staff would run with
BK>it as *they* interpreted the script without any notes from
BK>the writer.
BK>Then you have the director also interpreting Lucas' ideas.
BK>Could you immagine how different Star wars would have turned out?
        I have been told in many books about screen writing that this is
 the fate of the screen play.  This is not just VOY or the franchise,
 but it's Hollywood in general.  George Lucas was the exception, being
 the director, writer and to a certain degree the producer, too.  jms is
 also in this rarified zone.  For normal people, you write your story
 and the director does whatever he wants with it.  That's *his* job.  Or
 so I'm told.
BK>If I think the actors should deal with a scene as the
BK>writer, I surrender any input on this basis since I
BK>wouldn't be able to set up the scene in the script. If I as
BK>the author felt a certain scene (SFX) should be put
BK>together in a certain way in keeping with *my* vision of
BK>the episode as a part of the script.. I can't do that. In
BK>toher words... If I want the Voyager to do something
BK>specific as part of the script, I can't say so.
        You *can* include notes like these in the script.  But when
 P'mound purchases your script, then they have the right to reinterpret
 things like where the camera should be or what angle the computers
 should draw the Voyager at.  They gave you your money.  Hypothetically
 speaking, of course.
> I will cheerfully concede the idea that TOS is the source and
> starting point.  I just don't think that cheesy set designs or motor
> oil Klingons are the core of what's valuable about it.
BK>Like i said earlier.. could you immagine something like TOS with the 
current
BK>budgets and SFX? Whew! Ergo.. the staff of DS-9 has
BK>exhibiting some ability to re-create the flavor of a TOS
BK>style show.. it would be nice to see them seriously try and
BK>take that on.. perhaps based on Capt Sulu (with less over
BK>acting). Bring in Harve Bennett.. perhaps Nimoy to direct
BK>the premiere.
        I would like to see Nimoy produce a Trek series.  But Harve
  Bennett might not be the best choice.  His credits include "The Mod
  Squad", "The Six Million Dollar Man" and "Timecop".  have you *seen*
  these?  There's a reason they aren't still running...
BK>They solved things on a realistic basis without reverting to
BK>Treknobable! :)
BK>Man what a concept! :)
> That's the writing.  That's the patern, the format of the story
> that one tells.
BK>You're not clear here? Are you refering to Treknobable?
        No.  I am very clear.  I get the feeling that we are having a
 minor interpretation problem.  The reliance on Treknobable is a symptom
 of the problem.  But in "The World of Star Trek" David Gerrold
 described a very similar incident concerning the episode that became
 "The Cloud Minders".  The original thrust of the story was that the
 rich and powerful lived in castles in the sky while the poor toiled in
 the mines.  The problem was not zenon gas but a basic inequity in the
 society.
        The story was rewritten so that the problem was zenon gas and
 the Enterpise solved it with filter masks.  Every bit as satisfactory
 as recent Voyager Episodes  (Evil Grin).
        A decision was made to take out a social problem that wasn't
 easy in favor of a treknobable problem that was easy to solve.  While
 this wasn't always the case in TOS it is much more prevalent in VOY.
        This problem starts and ends in the typewriter (Word Processor).
 The directors, the props, the camera angles and the actors are all
 fairly irrelevant.  The people on VOY are reasonably talented and
 handed a good script, I bet they could bring it off.
        But decisions are made that all scripts must have the ship in
  danger.  It seems as though all episoes must have gunfights and
  explosions in them.  The social problems are too complex and bother
  the audience too much.  Go with the gun battle and the treknobable and
  don't rock the metaphhorical boat.
[Comparison of TOS: The Corbomite Manuever to recent episodes of VOY]
BK>Yes, but then the Corbomite epsiode was writen for 60's
BK>viewers.. it could still have been done but on a level in
BK>keeping with the intellegence and sophistication of the
BK>90's viewers... TNG was on occasion, but it didn't have the
BK>chemistry of TOS.
        This is all in the writing and what the producers shose to have
 the characters doing.  Truly, the people on the Enterprise-D or the
 Voyager wouldn't have the same chemistry as the characters on TOS,
 they're different people!  But DS9 and to a very limited degree VOY
 have characters with promise.
BK>Jeri Taylor has also outright insulted the "TREK"
BK>Fans/viewers. Not a good idea when they are your bread and
BK>butter. Ask Zorch about this one.
BK>                                      BK
        Hey, Zorch!  What's Bob Kokl talking about?
Jay P. Hailey 
Chief Editor
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