r norman  wrote:

> > PF:-
> >Lifetime situations in which an individual's capacity 
> >for a sympathetic nervous flight or distressed response 
> >is being prompted/prodded by some adverse environmental factor(s) 
> >[prompted/prodded strongly and suddently, 
> >or weakly in a sustained way with a cumulative result], 
> >AND the primarily prompted response WOULD 
> >put the individual in a worse peril 
> >IF the predicament is allowed 
> >(or continues to be allowed) 
> >to electrochemically progress *from* having a sensory 
> >(and 'preliminary motivational') representation 
> >*to* a state of alertness/muscular activity/attentiveness.
> >?

> RN:-
> It doesn't rhyme and the rhythmic pattern is very weak.
> I'd give it a C- if only for unusual imagery and word juxtapositions.

JE:-
IMHO Peter's writing needs to be carefully
interpreted. I would argue that while I agree
nobody should have to suffer fools, R. Norman's 
response was _unnecessarily_ demeaning and 
quite disingenuous of the spirit of sbe.

Here is my interpretation of Peter's Posting:
The flight or fight response can
provide a mal-adaptation. What happens
when such a situation arises?

Such a situation constitutes an 
evolutionary theory
basic because all environments and 
all individuals change all of the 
time via simple random processes
which cannot ever be eliminated 
from any natural population (note:
they can be eliminated from just a
simplified model of such a population).

When a population of conspecies provides
a larger selective force on fertile
individuals within one population than any 
other then the Baldwin effect dominates any other
selective force. When the "fight or flight"
response is mostly working between conspecies
(members of the same species) in the same
population who are being selected to become more 
and more fitness mutualised (this means the mean 
total Darwinian fitness of every associated fertile
form increases because of a selected for fitness
association providing organism fitness mutualism 
and not organism fitness altruism i.e. OFM and 
_not_ OFA) then the fight or flight response can 
be extremely mal-adaptive because it can reduce
levels of exchange between conspecies
and thus lower everybody's total Darwinian
fitness in the process.

Regards,

John Edser
Independent Researcher

PO Box 266
Church Pt
NSW 2105
Australia

edser{at}tpg.com.au
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