Hello Tommi,

On Wednesday November 18 2020 16:08, you wrote to me:

 MV>> I have never tried and have no plans to try in the foreseeable
 MV>> future. I stay away from Gmail.

 TK> So you are not communicating anyone that uses gmail?

I try to avoid it. With moderate success.

 TK> There are also millions on companies that "rely" to google mail
 TK> services.

Not my problem. I am penisonado, I no longer have a company, I no longer work for a company, I do not have to make compromises when dealing with companies. ;-)

 TK> But since you apparently send all your email to your ISP's smarthost,

I don't have a lot of choice. My ISP blocks outgoing port 25, except for mail going to their own smtp server...

 TK> you don't see the problems they may get when trying to send mail via
 TK> google.

So... not my problem. ;-)

 MV>> You need Sage status to unblock port 25. But you have that of
 MV>> course. ;)

 TK> Of course I do. :)

And like me, you have the T-shirt. :-)

Cheers, Michiel

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