Hello again Steve
   The first two questions you asked, those regarding the >64 meg thing
and MSI motherboards being especially concerned about OS/2 support, were
both covered on this forum perhaps 2 years ago.  I probably still have it
somewhere among dozens of backup CDs and I will try to find them but it's
gonna take some time.  IIRC, David Wu, may have brought up the MSI thing,
though not the >64meg issue, but I am certain that the letter contained
a link to the MSI site, probably the global site, that confirmed at least
their statements.  I cannot find this page through the company's search
engine and there are way too many replies when I search the entire internet
with "MSI + OS/2" so I will have to try to find that link.  I
seem to recall both that MSI was at one time featured as a favorite on
"Trish's Hardware Hell" site (as a goody, not a hell) and that in
the linked company page the company stated that every mobo design was
confrimed capable of installing OS/2 by someone actually doing it.

  As for LVM, I think it is probably a needed and decent tool, apart from
it's unfriendly interface, for the IBM intended OS/2 market, mainly servers
and almost totally single operating system machnes.  On a multi-boot
machine it is pure hell to me.  It have read that it is possible to choose
fdisk instead of LVM but recently I have been reminded that upon first boot
LVM and it's cronies automatically create one or more
"compatibility" volumes.  The creation as well as the deletion of
these volumes is not virtual or relative only to OS/2 and they have been
responsible for considerable data loss to myself and others.

  There was quite a heated controversy on here when LVM was hatched and
frankly I don't recall what side of that argument you took but I haven't
changed one iota especially since I have come into contact with it now
after almost 4 years absence, that being the time when I built a dedicated
OS/2 box which has run nicely ever since, networked.  It's only a pity I
can't connect it wirelessly at this time.  Anyway I simply despise LVM and
it's compatriots, uhhh VCU is it? one of them, anyway and probably my poor
memory of the details is due to my anger and frustration at what I consider
to be an incredibly poorly written piece of software with the only caveat
being that I recognize the most severe of it's problems cease to exist on a
standalone, fresh install box.  I said then and I'll say now that at the
time of it's arrival PQMagic had been around for a couple years and showed
everyone how it could be done, making partitioning damn near fun.  IBM, or
this particular group of programmers,

 IMHO took a huge leap backwards.

  I intend to write a separate post regarding this thread as an update
since I now have OS/2 working on the MSI/Athlon 64 system with very little
trouble but only because I actively avoided LVM and even still it trashed a
partition table and several partitons, though fortunately only one of them
contained any moderately important data (ie takes a good deal of time to
replace).

  The only thing I'll say here and now is that the one part of the FUD
campaign that MS launched that had any real validity was difficulty in
install.  It just makes little sense in my book that a system will run
flawlessly on hardware configured in a manner upon which it cannot be
installed.  One example is the old days of having to turn off CPU caching
until after install was complete, but there are a few more, thankfully so
often easily sidestepped by merely reverting to VGA driver and placing the
drive on the new system and Bam!, you're up.

Jimmy


> On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 02:46:01 +0000, rallee2{at}comcast.net wrote:
> 
> >  I thought we discussed this before on the group and that something had 
> > changed to where once again it was best to enable the
">64Meg option for OS2" 
> > in bios.
> 
> I don't recall that, and I would be very skeptical.
> 
> > MSI was the one mobo manufacturer that was truly serious about OS/2 
> > compatibility and even made a bit of a  big deal about it.
> 
> I don't recall that either.  Can you offer some links?
> 
> > I decided a few years ago to build a dedicated OS/2 box, largely
because of 
> > LVM probs and the lack of support for modern hardware, 
> 
> Which LVM problems?  Note that you don't have to use LVM if you don't want to.  
> Also, which "modern hardware" are you lacking support for? 
Not saying that it's 
> comprehensive, but I'm truly curious about what you need that is missing.
> 
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