rem642b{at}Yahoo.Com (tinyurl.com/uh3t) wrote:-

> > JE:-
> > What is missing but _absolutely_ required is
> > a _refutable_ theory, i.e. not just another
> > theory that can only be tested to non verification,
> > re: how a replicator can be caused initially
> > and how it might be able to sustain itself
> > long enough to become our most ancient
> > ancestor.

> T:-
> It's too early to make a theory for the whole process, because we don't
> yet have enough data to decide whether capable replicators are created
> so often (under Miller-Urey-type conditions) that there already was a
> successful one in the original Miller-Urey experiment but we didn't
> look for it so we didn't notice it, or whether capable replicators are
> created less often but still common enough that with the whole ocean
> available they happen within a year, or whether they require hundreds
> of millions of years even with the whole ocean available, or whether
> they have only about one chance in a million of occurring at all in a
> billion years of each planet so most likely Earth was seeded from some
> lucky planet elsewhere in our galaxy, or whether they occur so
> extremely rarely that there probably hasn't been one in the entire
> history of the whole Universe, in which case I'd have to scrap this
> scenerio for how abiogenesis happened.

JE:-
I agree. What is needed is more applied imagination,
i.e. more REAL work. The goal must be to put forward
an experiment of nature (not just a model) that can
refute some of these propositions. To this end I
would request that you make your point of view
known re: electronically published sbe peer
review papers in the threads that concern this
issue which is now being debated. If you have some 
good ideas in any area then being given the opportunity 
to submit a paper to a _transparent_ and _democratic_ 
peer review process so that it stands a chance of being 
published (within however just an obscure journal),
constitutes a benefit to both yourself
and science in general.

Regards,

John Edser
Independent Researcher

PO Box 266
Church Pt
NSW 2105
Australia

edser{at}tpg.com.au
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