From: "Phil Payne" 

> But, no civil war, heck no, just a bunch of dead-enders and
> malcontents, hangers-on from the Saddam regime who don't know that
> they are defeated as they flail about in their last throes.

http://www.sltrib.com/utah/ci_4253668

"Never have so many been so wrong about so much," Rumsfeld told
his troops in April 2003.

That was before the insurgency. Before the first signs of civil war. Before
the abuses at Abu Ghraib and elsewhere came to light.

 That was before Iraq began looking, to many Americans, like another war -
the one that was just ending when Rumsfeld began his first tenure as
defense secretary, under President Ford in 1975."

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