From: Adam <""4thwormcastfromthemolehill\"{at}the field.near
the bridge">

George Sherwood wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 22:11:18 +0100, Adam wrote:
>
>> But you :
>>
>> A) Have to state what to "win" is. i.e. is a democracy
with a populace
>> hostile to the US & friendly with "Anti-Israel forces" a win?
>> i.e. wrt Palestinian democracy you still appear to wish to pick the
>> winners which ain't really democracy.
>>
>
> Show me a country's government that doesn't prefer one side or another in
> another country's election.  Is this what you mane by wishing to pick the
> winners? Every country from a diplomatic point of view is going to have a
> desired winner in an election.
>

Oh come on now. When Bangladesh or Spain votes in a gov which the US admin
doesn't prefer you don't get a massive & complete blockade with the
stated purpose of bringing down said elected gov & thus
"trumping" the democratic rights & wishes of the local
electorate.

> Still seems to me you are confusing accepting that an
> election was valid and the government is elected legitimately and deciding
> to support financially the elected government.

Nope. Not supporting is one thing. Putting in global controls on money/bank
transfers by others is a completely other thing.

> Show me where the US has
> questioned the legitimacy of the election of Hamas?

In effect they've challenged the legitimacy of the Palestinian electorate
& institutions period. Gosh what a wonderful message to send.

Almost as good as teaching world + dog that the mil is an acceptable
internal security force.

> No elected government
> automatically must be provided foreign aid because they were elected.

No argument with me on that but that's not all the US gov did was it?

> There are consequences to elections. Especially for a Government that many
> including much of the US and Europe consider a terrorist organization.
>

The ANC was a terrorist organization. Heck most African govs were terrorist
organizations as were the Vietnamese gov etc. etc. The Communists were
almost per se terrorist orgs whether in gov or in "armed
opposition".

So In Azerbaijan....Mr Aliev is president coz his dad was a big wig in a
terrorist org.

Adam

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