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"Anon." wrote in message
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> Name And Address Supplied wrote:
> > "Malcolm" wrote
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> >>"Name And Address Supplied"
wrote
> >>
> >>>I think this is telling. Your impression of the peer
review process is
> >>>based on the assumption that Hamilton's logic is absurd.
*Given* that
> >>>it is absurd, and given that it is established convention within the
> >>>peer-reviewed literature, then you logically infer that there is
> >>>something chronically wrong with the peer review process.
> >>>
> >>
> >>The problem is, John is outside the peer group, and not only
is his take on
> >>Hamilton's theory rejected by them, he cannot even get it
heard, because he
> >>is effectively frozen out of the publication process.
> >
> >
> > Right, a lot of people are 'frozen out' of the publication process,
> > because they are cranks who produce bad manuscripts. This is exactly
> > what a peer review process is for.
> >
>
> Whilst NAS is right, I do not think that all is lost for the amateur.
> As I see it, a non-specialist will face two issues. The first is that
> their ideas might be demostrably stupid (i.e. they are cranks). The
> second is that they do not know how to write a scientific paper in a way
> that is acceptable. There are conventions that are observed (such as
> the Introduction - Methods - Results - Discussion structure), which are
> considered important. It would be unfortunate if a paper were rejected
> because it did not conform to this standard. However, all is not lost.
> There are several books about scientific writing, so I would advise
> that these are consulted.
Sorry if I wasn't clear. I don't believe that the amateur is
intrinsically frozen out of the peer review process. I think that
certain amateurs are cranks, and they are frozen out because the peer
review process is doing exactly what is there to do - filter out the
good from the bad. I agree wholeheartedly with what you have just
said.
> I suspect that a manuscript with a good idea from a non-specialist might
> be treated with some sympathy if it was clear that the author had tried
> to get the format right. Of course, if the ideas are nuts, then no
> amount of skill in writing will help:
Exactly. And surely this isn't a failing of the peer review system?
> you just have to make sure you
> have the right co-authors (e.g. W.D. Hamilton would be a good one to
> try. You just have to get his address right).
Well, that could be difficult.
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