From: "Phil Payne" 

"Mark"  wrote in message
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> Way back when, when they first opened up they seemed pretty good, then
they
> started slipping and I stopped going. However, I did go back to them a
month
> or so ago (my usual mechanic never seems very happy about doing mundane
oil
> changes, so I stopped asking him),

Speaking as a practising mechanic, I like doing oil changes.  It gives me a
good chance to walk around under the car.

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