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from: Felix Miata
date: 2005-09-05 07:18:46
subject: Re: [OS2HW] New Vid

Phil Kane wrote:
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> On Sun, 04 Sep 2005 20:53:41 -0400, Felix Miata wrote:
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> >> AGP/VGA Slot:  PCI-E x16 (no AGP)  AGP =3D no AGP?  If there is no AGP=
 why
> >> are they listing it under the AGP spec?

> >> Is one of these PCI-E vid cards something I am going to be ecstatic ov=
er
> >> having spent my money for?  To drive my Samsung 17" LCD?  More
> >> important, is this something I soon won't have a choice about?

> >> Lastly and perhaps unrelatedly, what are those slots on mobos that loo=
k
> >> like about 1/3 of a PCI slot?

> >Just a couple Google results:
> >http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,116703,00.asp
> >http://www.intel.com/technology/pciexpress/devnet/docs/WhatisPCIExpress.=
pdf

>   With all due respect, Felix, he asked "what do they mean"
not "where
>   can I look it up".

>   Do you know what they mean? (I don't.)  Can you explain it to us?

>   As a teacher I explain things to my students so that everyone learns,
>   not send them off to look things up for themselves.

Apparently you would dispense with the hearsay rule in court too.

hear=B7say   Audio pronunciation of "hearsay" ( P ) 
Pronunciation Key =3D =
(h=EErs) n.

   1. Unverified information heard or received from another; rumor.
   2. Law. Evidence based on the reports of others rather than the
personal knowledge of a witness and therefore generally not admissible
as testimony.

hearsay

adj : heard through another rather than directly; "hearsay information"
n : gossip (usually a mixture of truth and untruth) passed around by
word of mouth [syn: rumor, rumour]

The reason for the hearsay rule is to be found in a bit of the last
definition above "mixture of truth and untruth".=20

As the creator of the spec, Intel would be the originator of the
statement, and thus the most competent to testify to the meaning of its
content. PC World OTOH, would likely be considered an expert, able to
testify under an exception to the hearsay rule as an expert were Intel
unable to appear to testify.

Those of us here on this list are not experts on the PCI Express spec,
and can only interpret, and possibly misinterpret, what we have found
elsewhere. Thus, the better (complete, and absent misinterpretation)
answer to the original question will not likely come directly from
anyone on this list. By pointing to an original source, and an expert
source, I did give an answer, one uncolored by personal
(mis)interpretation, and also (arguably) most complete.
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"Cast your cares on the Lord and He will sustain you."
                                                Psalm 55:22 NIV

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Felix Miata  ***  http://members.ij.net/mrmazda/



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