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to: AARON THOMAS
from: DALE SHIPP
date: 2019-12-29 00:35:00
subject: Re: Your tax dollars at

 -=> On 12-28-19  11:36,  Aaron Thomas <=-
 -=> spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Your tax dollars at <=-


 DS> DUH -- and we gave their money back to them as part of their agreeing to
 DS> stop developing nuclear weapons.  And it *WAS* a pretty good incentive,

 AT> Maybe you're right about this - and maybe the rest of the world
 AT> including me is very uninformed about this subject - but what are you
 AT> talking about? 
 AT> I can't find any news article that explains how the USA possessed 1.7
 AT> billion dollars of Iranian money. How did Iran let that happen? The
 AT> country that they wish death to was holding 1.7 billion dollars of
 AT> their money? And like superheroes, Obama & Kerry gave that money back
 AT> to its rightful owner? 
 AT> The way I remember the scandal was that we were paying Iran, with our
 AT> own 1.7 billion dollars, to denuclearize. Does the National Enquirer
 AT> say something different? How do we pay Iran, with their own money, to
 AT> denuclearize? 

The National Enquirer is a tabloid rag that rarely publishes any real
news of value.

Here is an excerpt from a snoops article that explains what happened:

<>
[quote]
However, the $400 million dollar transfer was actually an openly
announced one, paid in settlement of a nearly 40-year dispute between
Iran and the United States — a settlement that likely saved the United
States several billion dollars.

Back in late 1979, after Iranian revolutionaries took 52 Americans
hostage at the US Embassy in Tehran, the United States severed
diplomatic relations with Iran and froze Iranian assets in America.
Among those frozen assets was a $400 million delivery of fighter jets
from the U.S. that Iran's previous government had already paid for.

Although the American hostages were finally released a year later,
issues such as the frozen Iranian assets (including that $400 million)
were not settled at that time. Instead, an international court based in
the Hague, the Iran--United States Claims Tribunal was established to
deal with such legal claims. The tribunal process dragged on for years
and years without a ruling on the $400 million being issued, and
finally, when arbitration process was apparently about to wind up (quite
possibly not in American's favor), the U.S. agreed to pay Iran back the
$400 million principal along with $1.3 billion in interest. If the issue
had gone to the tribunal for a decision, as was expected, the U.S. could
have been on the hook for the full $10 billion in compensation Iran was
seeking.

It is true the U.S. agreed to the settlement at the same time it was
negotiating a nuclear deal with Iran and for the return of four U.S.
citizens who had been detained by Iran. However, the negotiations over
these these issues were conducted by completely separate teams in order
to avoid any overlap or suggestions of connections between them.
[/quote]

This article does contradict a statement I have believed that the money
was part of the de-nuclearation deal.  Hence, I will retract that.  It
is true that the deal had Iran agree to stop making enriched uranium and
nuclear weapons -- and had inspections to verify that they were
compliant with the deal.

                               Dale Shipp
                  fido_261_1466 (at) verizon (dot) net
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