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to: Gene McAloon
from: Antti Kurenniemi
date: 2004-01-16 22:01:56
subject: Re: Gun crazy Yanks

From: "Antti Kurenniemi" 

"Gene McAloon"  wrote in message
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> >Dodging again.  SMAT.  .  Can't answer
even
> >the simplest questions that flow from an espoused belief that their is no
> >god and when you die there is nothing.
> >
> >So smart and deep thinking are the atheists here.  They must be
telepathic
> >because they never have to think about or communicate the philosophy to
> >which they ascribe.  It would appear from all the dodging here that
> >atheist's only thought processes are about believers and never about
> >themselves or what they believe and why.
> >
> >Cheers,
>
> You are right, Gary. The atheists here have been doing a lousy job of
defending
> their belief systems. Their argument seems to consist mostly of just
denigrating
> religion and religious belief. Not surprising in that most of them are
atheists
> because they decided they didn't like organized religion or its beliefs.
>
> They could be arguing the secular-humanist approach, but they don't.
> Not sure why.

I don't want to push my beliefs on anyone, not even Gary. I think he has
every right to believe whatever he believes, and make any argument he
wants. I just wanted to ask him to remember that some might take offense of
the way he expresses his ideas.

Anyway, you know as well as I do that my logic is different from Gary's,
and nothing I say or do would convice him of anything - which is fine by
me.


> It may be the only thing they do know on this issue is that they
> don't like religion.

I don't like religion. But then, I don't dislike it either. It doesn't
actually feel interesting to me at all. It's like homosexuality, or skin
color - so what? So this guy looks like this, or likes to do something I
don't like to do, or believes in something I don't believe - big deal. I
just would like to see people take other people's feelings into
consideration. Common courtesy and all that.


> The nice thing about being an agnostic is that you can see the extremism
> on both sides, religious and atheists, and laugh at both. As in fact I do.

Isms Schmisms. I laugh at everyone all the time, just not in their face
because they might not see it funny like I do.


Antti Kurenniemi

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