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to: Gary Britt
from: Antti Kurenniemi
date: 2004-01-16 20:38:40
subject: Re: Gun crazy Yanks

From: "Antti Kurenniemi" 

"Gary Britt"  wrote in message
news:40081509$1{at}w3.nls.net...
> > So basically you are saying that if I had to choose between
> > the lives of my brother and a shithouse rat, it would make
> > no difference to me which one dies? Newsflash: I do not
> > believe in god, or any kind of higher being, yet I value my
> > brothers life more than the abovementioned shithouse rat.
>
> You are confusing personal value judgments with what I was
> saying.

 I could have sworn it was you who was confusing things, but ok, I'm cool
with that.


> I'm saying that from an atheist theological point of view all
> that happened was a machine ceased operating.

Atheist theological pow? Now that's a new idea to me...


> If you believe there is more to your brother's life than a machine
> (I'm talking about other than your personal value judgment that
> you value your brother's life), perhaps you aren't really an atheist
> afterall.

You can replace my brother with any human, and I still value that life
above a rat, and perhaps I still am an atheist but you don't really know
what it means.


> If you still insist you are an atheist then if someone who does not
> know your brother should allow your brother to die, by not
> saving him, on what basis would you argue that this other
> atheist's actions in failing to save your brother was immoral?

Humanity. Ethics. Empathy. Any or all of the above.


Antti Kurenniemi

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