Hello Phil
  Thank you for a helpful post. You are correct in noting that VCU is the
automatic culprit and surely the worst offender and also that the interface
of LVM is the primary problem with it.  Fixing that is almost enough to get
me to use LVM given a better interface.  However those are not the only
issues.  If I understand correctly, Dani's new DASD replacement and the
finest solution to Fat32 resolution, is not possible on an LVM system. 
Although I do still keep a "just under 2Gig" Fat16 C drive for
Dos/98 work, it is just not practical given modern hard drive sizes to
divide them up in 2G parcels, thus Fat32 compatibility at the very least is
necessary on a multi boot system. 

  I don't know if or how eCS may deal with this issue and I'm not really
likely to find out first hand until and unless I see that spending the
money for another new OS/2 system is going to support all my newest
hardware now and likely to continue to in the future and without having to
sign some paid-for update contract.  It truly pisses me off that IBM has
chosen to not make available to it's most ardent supporters who also happen
to be the most neglected customers, the desktop user, now that it's
basically all over for IBM regarding OS/2, the hardware support they need
without charging for it in an "insult to injury" situation just
because IBM got embarrased by OS/2 as if it was at fault not their own
inept marketing.  Their embarrasment should be from having the best product
by a mile and handling it like a loser as well as from abandoning the
aforementioned support group, the desktop user, which they are still doing
except to bask in the glory when they make news positive about the

ir red-headed stepchild.
  
 Sorry for slipping into rant mode but I guess installing after a 3-4 year
hiatus, having become complacent with a "good enough" standalone
system, has opened old wounds and I'm not ready to jump to eCS, or MCP2, at
cost, just to have it happen all over again.  I'm going to attempt to set
4.5 up with FDISK and update as much as I can and see how far I can go
these days.  I may as last resort have to try the improved GUI you
mentioned so thank you very much for that.


> 
> On 09/09/2005 at 05:14 AM, rallee2{at}comcast.net wrote:
> >Hello
> >  OK I've got updated diskette set with new Danis506, DanisAtapi, DanisDASD
> >and OS2LDR and have altered them to stop LVM and VCU 
> 
> VCU was the problem, not LVM itself. VCU ran unannounced in the original IBM
> Convenience Pak (formerly Fix Pak to most of us) and would erase any removable
> HDD (e.g., ZIP disks) left in the machine. That teed a *lot* of people on
> these lists, and led to some flames.
> 
> As far as I can tell, eCS fixed that (VCU did NOT run on my eCS 1.2 install,
> which I mostly let go as it would to see what it did) and LVM by itself
> (albeit with a poorly implemented interface) creates no problems that I have
> seen. But I haven't had to see it except once during the install, and what one
> sees then is a special eCS version. It's LVM Lite, if I understand correctly,
> only a tiny bit more capable than our old friend FDISK, and looks a lot more
> like FDISK than anything else.
> 
> You might want to try the new hdman112.zip at Hobbes. I haven't, but the
> author says it's a better user interface for LVM than the infamous LVMGUI.
> 
> -- 
>     Phil Parker
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