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to: Robert Sayre
from: Charles Angelich
date: 2003-02-27 14:07:02
subject: tires

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Hello Robert - 

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CA>> Is it possible that this 'give' might help avoid the tires
CA>> breaking loose and sliding on wet pavement or in the rain?
CA>> Some factors of what is 'good' don't always feel quite
CA>> right if you're not used to it. 

RS> Well, I pressed both sets pretty hard to see if they would
RS> break on wet pavement. Neither set broke with more than
RS> sane stress applied. I want to know where the limits are so
RS> as not to exceed them in an emergency, but I never reached
RS> the wet traction limits with either set of tires. Maybe I'm
RS> just too chicken. 

I do the same. I don't think you are 'chicken'. No point in
doing damage to yourself or the vehicle but a few tests (before
an emergency) are a good idea. 

RS> The way that I first noticed the difference was when I
RS> tried to avoid someone coming into my lane without noticing
RS> that I was already there. The sway could very easily cause
RS> you to oversteer. The other set of tires were much more
RS> stable. 

This is true. I run with 10-15% extra air in my tires to help
me in those maneuvers. :-) 

CA>> My MGB could do a 'bootleg' at 50mph on an 8 lane highway
CA>> (2 way x 4 lanes each) using Dunlops but they were
CA>> noticeably 'soft' when going in a straight line. Of course
CA>> this was a controlled drift going sideways through the
CA>> bootleg. ;-) 

RS> All the Dunlops I've used were soft and sticky. Great
RS> performance with control, but, the life was always short. 

Great tires on a geat car. The MGB was a consistent winner in
it's class. :-) 

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CA>> Cornering isn't as important although it's a factor in the
CA>> rain etc. I mainly want the proper siping for slippery
CA>> roads and stopping power. If I can stop the rest is easy.
CA>> :-) 

RS> Stopping and manuvering out of the way of others who can
RS> not stop or who do not see are important here. 

In the AUTOMOTIVE echo there are guys with lots of $$$ who put
dual calipers on all four wheels with vented rotors. THEY can
STOP!!! 

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