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from: John Edser
date: 2004-11-09 16:57:00
subject: Re: Correction with missi

r norman  wrote:

> >JE:-
> >IMHO Peter's writing needs to be carefully
> >interpreted. I would argue that while I agree
> >nobody should have to suffer fools, R. Norman's 
> >response was _unnecessarily_ demeaning and 
> >quite disingenuous of the spirit of sbe.
> >
> >Here is my interpretation of Peter's Posting:
> >The flight or fight response can
> >provide a mal-adaptation. What happens
> >when such a situation arises?
> >
> >Such a situation constitutes an 
> >evolutionary theory
> >basic because all environments and 
> >all individuals change all of the 
> >time via simple random processes
> >which cannot ever be eliminated 
> >from any natural population (note:
> >they can be eliminated from just a
> >simplified model of such a population).
> >
> >When a population of conspecies provides
> >a larger selective force on fertile
> >individuals within one population than any 
> >other then the Baldwin effect dominates any other
> >selective force. When the "fight or flight"
> >response is mostly working between conspecies
> >(members of the same species) in the same
> >population who are being selected to become more 
> >and more fitness mutualised (this means the mean 
> >total Darwinian fitness of every associated fertile
> >form increases because of a selected for fitness
> >association providing organism fitness mutualism 
> >and not organism fitness altruism i.e. OFM and 
> >_not_ OFA) then the fight or flight response can 
> >be extremely mal-adaptive because it can reduce
> >levels of exchange between conspecies
> >and thus lower everybody's total Darwinian
> >fitness

> RN:-
> OK.  Change that to a C+, then.

JE:-
Always remember that the quality of
institutions are determined by the
quality of the teachers they produce.
Therefore, marking is always a _two_ way
street because both the "marker" and the
"markee" are actually being marked. A poor
mark given to a good idea by a bad teacher
means the institution that taught that teacher
must be given a poor mark. I remain astounded
at the ineptitude/bias of the Neo Darwinians 
that post here.

My Regards,

John Edser
Independent Researcher

PO Box 266
Church Pt
NSW 2105
Australia

edser{at}tpg.com.au
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