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from: rallee2{at}comcast.net
date: 2005-09-09 22:45:20
subject: Re: [OS2HW] Updated Install Disks

Hello Franklin
   I don't know where you got the idea I don't believe in backing up
especially when I mentioned having needing to search through dozens of
backup CDs but really that is neither here nor there since there has rarely
been a time when backup has kept pace with system storage except in
mirrorred raids.  Even in the olden days when a 40 meg hard drive was huge
most desktop users did not own the best backup hardware of the day, the now
extinct tape drives, and relied on floppies.  I recall just how long it
took to restore a single 40 meg system from floppies.  Yeccchh!
   Today I suppose the best solid backup devices are DVD burners (which I
don't have yet, only relying in CDRW) but even a 7+ Gig device pales in the
face of 200 Gigs of system, admittedly of which less than half is truly
important.  Still 100G divided by 7 is still 16 disks and a lot of time,
backup and restore.  I have 30% less than 1 G devices so you can see the
difficulty in relying just on backup.  Furthermore it is amazing how few
backup CDs I've ever had to use.  Perhaps I've just sometimes been unlucky
at what or when I've chosen to backup.  For me it has become far more
important to keep records of *exact* drive partitioning parameters, though
I haven't always been entirely diligent at updating when I've chosen to
alter any of them.  None of that changes the fact that a partitioning tool
or any low level device needs to be completely explicit in what it is doing
or undoing.  LVM is far from explicit.  I don't wish to get back into the
heated discussions that have taken place r

egarding LVM but suffice it to say there are numerous OS/2 websites that
agree it is a mess.  One such site has a list of multiple choice answers
for all quetions on it's FAQ and one of them is "Disable LVM". 
What it does is needed and exemplary, how it does it is illogical and
horribly designed.

  I'm sorry you had the problem you mentioned but for me I'd much rather be
the one clearly to blame by having neglected something than to be at the
mercy of stupid automatics or imprecisely worded menues. I have recently
mentioned Xandros Linux as an incredibly well thought out, intelligently
designed interface but I still prefer Slackware which does *nothing* behind
my back, like OS/2 before LVM, and thus keeps me completely in the loop. 
If something fails I know exactly when it happened and who to blame, me,
and therefore what to fix and how to fix it.  It, like 99% of OS/2, never
says "A" while doing "A+B+C", like LVM often does.
Jimmy



> 
> Wow! Don't believe in backing up?
> I screwed up a disk I wasn't even working on once with Fdisk because I
> was working on the second installed hard drive and forgot to switch to
> it and when I closed fdisk it merrily did what I asked - to the first
> hard drive with all my stuff on it. Hey we all learn one way or
> another.
> 

> Franklin
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