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from: Franklin
date: 2005-09-10 01:48:28
subject: Re: [OS2HW] Updated Install Disks

--- rallee2{at}comcast.net wrote:

> Hello Franklin
>    I don't know where you got the idea I don't believe in backing up
> especially when I mentioned having needing to search through dozens
> of backup CDs but really that is neither here nor there since there
> has rarely been a time when backup has kept pace with system storage
> except in mirrorred raids.  Even in the olden days when a 40 meg hard
> drive was huge most desktop users did not own the best backup
> hardware of the day, the now extinct tape drives, and relied on
> floppies.  I recall just how long it took to restore a single 40 meg
> system from floppies.  Yeccchh!

My usual poor choice of words, I was trying to be humorous. You did say
months of work gone.

You're right about all you said, hard drive space has always been so
much more than backup media. I can back up to dvd now (not dual layer),
I back up by xcopy mostly. The latest scheme I've done is to install
the os, then back it up. Add in the applications, back up the OS again.
Then back up the large app partition. After that I only back up the
data I add or change. I usually mess up my installation so bad over
time that if I lose it,  I'm better off usually just rinstalling the os
and applications, then restore the data. The great thing about OS/2
applications is most install in their own directories and can usually
be just recopied, then put the objects back on the desktop, unlike
winblows where every app installs files in the windows, system, and
several other directories in such a mismash a person can hardly remove
it if they wanted to. So in win98 I have to backup the whole thing once
in a while since it's such a pile. Good thing I don't do much in
windows. And windows screws itself up on it's own, unlike os2 where
it's up to me to mess it up.

>    Today I suppose the best solid backup devices are DVD burners
(which 
I don't have yet, only relying in CDRW)

DVD burners are getting pretty cheap now since the dual layer ones are
becoming plentiful, check out this deal:
http://www.gearxs.com/gearxs/product_info.php?products_id=4650

I admit I went through a lot of trouble figuring out LVM to set up my
hard drive, just did a lot of doing and redoing before I added new
stuff on it. I think LVM actuall does what it says, it's just so
different from the way I got used to thinking. I just wish I could
really remember how I finally got the fat32 partition working ok with
windows and os2 and being almost half the drive space. I'm also happy
that I haven't really had to remember in over a year. One thing I
really hate but got used to about LVM is that whenever I commit
changes, it takes out the boot managers (LILO or AIR-boot) and I have
to reinstall/recover them.


>   I'm sorry you had the problem you mentioned but for me I'd much
> rather be the one clearly to blame ...
Don't need to be. Actually what I lost in windows I didn't need, and I
got saved in os/2 because my important stuff was on a HPFS partition
and using Graham Utilities I recovered the entire directory structure
and files. There was no saving windows. I don't know about JFS, but
HPFS seems to be the most recoverable file system there is.

Franklin


	
		
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