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from: William Morse
date: 2004-11-13 02:49:00
subject: Re: Global warming is rea

Tim Tyler  wrote in
news:cmtdud$1fm7$1{at}darwin.ediacara.org: 

> William Morse  wrote or quoted:
>> "Reason"  wrote in
>> > "Carlos Trevino" 
wrote in message 
> 
>> >> WASHINGTON -- Scientists say changes in the earth's climate from
>> >> human influences are occurring particularly intensely in the
>> >> Arctic region, evidenced by widespread melting of glaciers,
>> >> thinning sea ice and rising permafrost temperatures. 
>>  
>> > At risk of heresy, and with due respect to the broad consensus that
>> > global warming is anthropogenic, it's difficult to account for the
>> > previous warming cycle a millenium ago, when there was no
>> > industrial effluent.  The sun has been observed to vary in it's
>> > output of radiation over time, and corresponds to a good deal of
>> > climatic warming and cooling. 
>> 
>> Agreed that while there is reasonably good evidence for global
>> warming, and there is very good evidence for anthropogenic effects on
>> atmospheric chemistry, and there is a plausible model for the
>> connection between the anthropogenic effects and the warming, the
>> case for a causal connection is far from proven.
> 
> The gun is smoking, the victim is wounded, witnesses abound - what
> more do you want?

In the spirit of providing verification of the connection, I propose a 
simple test: we reduce carbon dioxide emissions to the level of say 1850 
for a period of ten years and see if the models accurately predict any 
resulting change in temperature. Surely the people who doubt the models 
can't object to such an experiment? ;-)

Yours,

Bill Morse
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