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Catherine Woodgold wrote or quoted: > That's just the sort of thing I was talking about > when I posted the following, a long time ago: > > Evolution of the speed of evolution. [...] > Consider a species where the female does all the work of > raising the children. Now suppose a female suddenly arises > who can clone herself. All of her children are females with > exactly the same genes as herself, and also able to clone > themselves. Instead of averaging one male and one female > surviving offspring as is average and normal in a steady > sexually-reproducing population, each clone would have on > average about two surviving female cloned offspring > (assuming that raising males is no harder or easier than > raising females). So the number of clones would increase > exponentially, doubling each generation. The so-called "two-fold cost" of sex. > In either case, the clones would rapidly increase in number > and likely cause the extinction of the sexually-reproducing > part of the species, unless they can fill a different niche; > for example, the sexually- reproducing ones might save > themselves by having the males dislike mating with anyone > who looks like one of the clones. That's not what usually what happens - usually the clones suffer from parasites - and don't do terribly well. > We don't know yet whether humans now have the ability to > clone humans. There's a slim chance that ethical, legal or > religious barriers will prevent it from being possible. If > we do begin to clone, we will have lost a long-term > evolutionary advantage and have started down a slippery > slope towards being a less adaptable species. Cloned organisms typically lack capacity for disease resistance (since they can't trade disease resistance genes) and rarely do very well against sexually recombining strains - /despite/ the fact that often twice the number of their population can give birth. That's Hamilton's "Red Queen" theory of the evolution of sex. > Reproducing sexually is an altruistic act, helping out > someone elses' genes rather than one's own; but we can't > help doing it because we're made that way. We can't easily > evolve not to be altruistic in that way. Sex is not altruistic according to the "Red Queen" theory - or the "gene repair" theory of the origin of sex (and these are the two main modern theories). It /really/ pays a sexual organism to throw away half their genes in each generation. Failure to do so rapidly leads to problems in the short term - problems with error catastrophes - and problems with parasites. -- __________ |im |yler http://timtyler.org/ tim{at}tt1lock.org Remove lock to reply. --- þ RIMEGate(tm)/RGXPost V1.14 at BBSWORLD * Info{at}bbsworld.com --- * RIMEGate(tm)V10.2áÿ* RelayNet(tm) NNTP Gateway * MoonDog BBS * RgateImp.MoonDog.BBS at 11/13/04 2:49:08 AM* Origin: MoonDog BBS, Brooklyn,NY, 718 692-2498, 1:278/230 (1:278/230) SEEN-BY: 633/267 270 5030/786 @PATH: 278/230 10/345 106/1 2000 633/267 |
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