From: Phil Payne 

> > > > Hans the clever horse could "count" and
"do" math.
> > >
> > > Yeah.  I've seen "counting horses" and the
trainer's signals are SO
> > > obvious.

> Actually, she was over 50 feet away and in an enclosed room.
>
> There's also a site where you can heard the bird.
> http://www.sheldrake.org/nkisi/nkisi1_text.html
>
> I've seen this bird live on a show, and it is amazing.

My cynical remarks were specific to the counting horse shows.  They really
_are_ fake - so fake that it's funny.  Something for three-year-olds.

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