On Thu, 21 May 2015, Wilfred van Velzen wrote to Dale Shipp:

 DS> If you posted a few more details about such messages, then perhaps
 DS> people could do some research to find out where the Seen-bys are being
 DS> reset and thus causing the loop.  I would suggest at least a subject
 DS> line.  TO and FROM would also help. I have direct access to several of
 DS> those sites, others could fill in the rest.  It would help Fido if a
 DS> definite answer could be found.

 WvV> Here's a sample:

there is no echotag or long area name listed for that message... we don't even
know which echo to try to start looking in :( 

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