SB> However, I don't take kindly to people like you,

RS> Too bad, you can chuck a wobbly any time the urge takes you and
RS> we can all have a good laugh at the spectacle. And laughter is
RS> supposed to be good for everyones health, so you might end up
RS> helping humans instead of your pathetically silly wank with pets.

SB> Thats true, I've heard that too, however, your so called
SB> wonder *Science* hasn't been able to prove that either :)

Fraid it has Gordon, most obviously with the bizarre
range of symptoms you can get with depression.

SB> and as for Humans, why would I bother? there are enough
SB> healers out there already, both Medical and alternative,

Sure, there are certainly lots of 'alternative' wankers.

SB> and pets are much more open minded than humans can be :)

The do tend to bite more often than humans tho.

RS> Thats what all you loons claim Sean, no one understands what a
RS> brilliant contribution you are making. Usually followed up with
RS> all sorts of raving about loons who got howled down in the past.

SB> 1stly, I never claimed to be making a brilliant contribution,

Funny, could have SWORN some complete loon had some 'theory' on
mad cow disease. Pity for you thats the VERY graphic evidence
that you are completely and utterly out of your tree.

RS> Soorree, I will take decent rigorous science over that
RS> crap any day. THAT works, not your witchdoctor stuff

SB> Yes I agree, *SOME* of it works, the
SB> same as *SOME* of what I do works as well,

Nope, you cant demonstrate with those funky randomised double blind
trials that your crap works. Soorree, into the bin it goes when you cant.

RS> Corse you are perfectly welcome to don your witchdoctor costume and
RS> prance around claiming to cure all ills, as long as people pay enough.

RS> Well, most of the time anyway, better not try it
RS> with cancer in humans, we have made that illegal now.

SB> Yes, unfortunatly that is true, but it hasn't stopped the
SB> alternative therapist's from continuing to do it has it? :-)

Fine, jail terms for them.

SB> I am only interested in talking and helping the people out that have
SB> ill animals that would like an alternative healing option to Vets.

RS> But you do prefer they actually pay you money. Funny that.

SB> Thats true, I do prefer that they pay me,
SB> but I have to live some how to don't I?

Dunno, the world would be a rather better place if
you spivs and con men and snake oil salesmen didnt.

SB> But It doesn't always have to be in Money, but I'll
SB> bet that every pay cheque you get is money isn't it ?  :-D

I dont produce an income by engaging in fraud Gordon. You do.

RS> To be quite blunt about it, I think that you should be charged with fraud.

SB> Thats fair enough, after all as I said, your entiled to your opinion,
SB> but what kind of fraud do you think I should be charged with?

Making claims that your 'treatments' etc work when they dont.
We can use those funky randomised double blind trials to prove that.

You claim that say you have some way to prevent rabbits from
dying of rabbit calici virus, and if you do not, thats fraud.

RS> We have changed the law on wild claims made in the treatment of humans,
RS> so you spivs and con men and snake oil salesmen have moved on to pets.

SB> I actually like to think of it as having moved up
SB> to Pets, because they don't lie or abuse you :-D

Some of the more intelligent ones bite clowns like you tho.

RS> Its just as true of animals, its decent rigorous science
RS> that has completely revolutionised animal disease as well.

SB> Yes! and if only it had revolutionised the *CURING* of them as well!! :)

It has. Corse no one would be silly enough to claim we have a
cure for everything, either with humans or animals. We do however
have some very powerful technique for working out if something
works or not. We call one of those randomised double blind trials.

RS> We have even eliminated smallpox from the entire world
RS> now and are well on the way to doing that with polio too.

SB> F**KING WHAT?! Perhaps you ought to get *some* of your
SB> facts straight you gibbering imbecile!  There are people
SB> STILL dying of smallpox throughout Asia, Africa, and Europe!

Poor old Gordon, what a pathetic moron. Smallpox has been completely
and utterly eliminated from the wild. And if you cant even grasp the
VERY basic stuff like that, whatever you might have to say on anything
else to do with human or animal health isnt worth a damned thing.

SB> Or is the "entire world" simply your own back yard?!

Nope, there aint no more smallpox in the entire world.
The last known case was in Merca, Somalia in 1979.

SB> Polio continues to mutate, and still deforms children in Africa especially.

And has been virtually eliminated from the americas now. Yes, it
does mutate at a higher rate than smallpox, but since we have now
eliminated it from some areas, it may well be feasible to do that
with africa and Asia where its still a considerable problem.

I've binned your mindless rabid ravings. Just keep taking the medication.

RS> Soorree, not interested in your 'natural forms of healing', they dont work.

SB> That's *your* opinion.

Nope, we have invented a funky technique called randomised double
blind trials which can be used to show what works and what doesnt.

SB> Keep it as yours, and don't try to convince the rest of the world.

Soorree, we have noticed that decent rigorous science works a hell
of a lot better that having people proclaim on what their opinion is.

SB> I *know* that China has been using "natural
SB> forms of healing" since about 3000BC.

Whoopy do. Some loons called the Incas claimed that the sun was a
god and that we had to keep sacrificing humans to ensure that it kept
coming up every day. No one actually bothered to apply any test of that
claim and just before the Spanish put a stop to that utterly unspeakable
behaviour they were consuming vast numbers of people every year. Once
the Spanish put a stop to it, the sun kept coming up and we eventually
applied some decent rigorous science and concluded its just a damned
great fusion reactor we happen to orbit around. Yet another idea of
you pathetic loons flushed down the tubes of history.

SB> They have been getting better results than modern medicine,

Pigs arse they have. You might care to explain how, if chinese
medicine was so effective, why they were dying like flys from
infectious disease until vaccination was introduced, with
smallpox for example. Nice theory, pity about the reality tho.

You might also care to explain how decent modern medicine managed to
reduce infant mortality to a HUNDREDTH of what it was when there was
only the crackpot crap that you loons were spruiking available, and
why the chinese never managed to do that themselves until the coming
of decent modern medicine. Nice theory, pity about the reality tho.

SB> and are now being treated with a great
SB> deal of respect by modern researchers.

Soorree, we keep vaccinating against in infectious
diseases, or atleast those with any sense do.

SB> So much for them "not working".

Try naming a SINGLE 'treatment' of animal origin in
traditional chinese medicine that actually works. Have fun.

SB> If you'd like to continue this friendly discussion,
SB> then please take it to E-Mail.  
SB> I really don't think this is the area to discuss this in.

True, thats not convenient for me tho, how about BBS_USER.
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