From: "Antti Kurenniemi" 

"Phil Payne"  wrote in message
news:4027C192.5679C44A{at}isham-research.com...
> > You are throwing around these times with some abandon. Fact is, you have
no idea
> > at precisely what time the anti-virus companies first detected mydoom or
at what
> > precise time they had definitions available.
>
> Leaving mydoom out of the equation - I just got a "Paypal"
spoof ("just
run
> the enclosed application") that got past both Symantec/Norton and AVG.
>
> 13KB .PIF file.

They'd catch it if you tried to run it (realtime scan) - probably. Hey, why
won't you try and then let us know 


Antti Kurenniemi

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