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echo: barktopus
to: Adam
from: Geo
date: 2006-09-19 23:12:52
subject: Re: Interesting effect. El nino or Global Warming?

From: "Geo" 

Ok, great, I've never heard of mudslides in southern CA..

Geo.

"Adam"  wrote in message
news:450e7442{at}w3.nls.net...
> Geo wrote:
> > One storm, they point to one storm as proof of anything? Come on Adam,
last
> > year you were pointing at the fact that we used up the whole alphabet
naming
> > storms, this year we are up to Helene, so why is that not considered
proof
> > by you now?
> >
>
> Nope.
>
> http://www.usatoday.com/weather/hurricane/2006-09-04-john-mexico_x.htm
>
> "Flash flooding triggered mudslides that trapped vehicles in Southern
> California as the fading remnants of Hurricane John doused part of the
> Southwest.
>
> Eight separate mudslides covered a stretch of road in the San Jacinto
> area with up to 6 feet of mud and rocks Monday afternoon, trapping 19
> vehicles but causing no injuries, said Riverside County Fire Captain
> Bret Cerini.
>
> Cerini said most of the vehicles were driven out but crews had to pull
> one car from deep mud.
>
> Hurricane John, which pounded parts of Mexico with up to 20 inches of
> rain, didn't directly cause the California rain but its remnants helped
> push tropical moisture into the region, said meteorologist Ted
> Mackechnie at the National Weather Service.
>
> "It kicked up the moisture and helped (the moisture) spread into our
> area," Mackechnie said.
>
> Normally dry southern New Mexico got enough rain from the storm system
> to cause isolated road flooding Monday, and southern Arizona had
> scattered rain.
>
> In Texas, a half-mile section of Interstate 10 near downtown El Paso was
> closed by water Monday morning, police spokesman Javier Sambrano said. A
> Continental Airlines jet got stuck in mud Monday at El Paso
> International Airport when it strayed off a taxiway, airline spokeswoman
> Julie King said. No one was hurt."
>
> Lane was straight after John.
>
> Adam
>
> > Geo.
> >
> > "Adam"
<""4thwormcastfromthemolehill\"{at}the field.near the
bridge"> wrote
in
> > message news:450d154b$1{at}w3.nls.net...
> >> The Atlantic hurricanes have been suppressed by the start of
el nino &
> >> those which have occurred have been kept off shore by the Bermuda high
> >> but on the west coast of Mexico...
> >>
> >>
> >
http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=topNews&storyID=2006-09-16T
221008Z_01_N15440511_RTRUKOC_0_US-WEATHER-MEXICO.xml&WTmodLoc=NewsHome-C1-topNe
ws-9
> >> "CULIACAN, Mexico (Reuters) - Powerful Hurricane Lane
thrashed western
> >> Mexico on Saturday, threatening tens of thousands of people with flash
> >> floods after a rampage along the Pacific coast that killed a child.
> >>
> >> The storm, a dangerous Category 3 hurricane, slammed into a low-lying
> >> coastal area between the northwestern city of Culiacan and the tourist
> >> resort of Mazatlan.
> >>
> >> Rain fell in Culiacan, capital of Sinaloa state, and shopkeepers rushed
> >> to tape up store windows to prevent them from shattering in winds that
> >> reached nearly 120 mph (195 mph) further down the coast.
> >>
> >> A Category 3 storm can cause extensive damage.
> >>
> >> "We are very worried because it is not only coming with
high winds but
> >> with an impressive amount of rain," Culiacan's mayor, Aaron Irizar
> >> Lopez, told Mexican radio.
> >>
> >> He said between 40,000 and 50,000 people in Sinaloa who live near
rivers
> >> and streams might be at risk. Many of the state's reservoirs were in
> >> danger of overflowing, he said.
> >>
> >> The storm had been expected to move up through the Sea of Cortez and
> >> make landfall farther north on Sunday but it swung suddenly to the east
> >> and crashed into the coastline.
> >>
> >> "It's not normal for a hurricane to hit here," said
Jose Lopez, 48, the
> >> manager of a Culiacan shoe store. "We've been preparing
for it since 11
> >> in the morning, when we heard it was coming.""
> >>
> >> Last time it was Baja california etc. I wonder if San Diego
& LA will
> >> get hit?
> >>
> >> Already we're seeing a "monsoon effect" wrt
arizona, nevada etc i.e. as
> >> the Western US heats up the mucho like inland Asia, it is dragging in
> >> wet sea air et voila monsoon rains. Who knows, global warming might
turn
> >> Las Vegas into a swamp & make Arizona go green.
> >>
> >> It will be entertaining though if the US wakes up (post El nino) to
> >> violent hurricanes from NY to the rio grande in Texas &
from San Diego
> >> to San Francisco.
> >>
> >> Adam
> >
> >

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