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from: Mark
date: 2006-09-24 23:30:20
subject: Re: Iraq War makes Terrorism Worse

From: "Mark" 

This sentiment from the counterterrorism blog seems to mirror my point and
yours Rich, because I believe both you and I want the truth rather than a
bunch of BS:

http://counterterrorismblog.org/2006/09/911_commission_members_should.php
"SO FOR GOD'S SAKE, let's not turn this NIE into another partisan
political battle over intelligence. The American people deserve to know, to
the maximum extent possible, the actual findings and conclusions in this
NIE and not depend on partial reports and leaks, which could be driven by
all sorts of hidden agendas."

I'm not so sure I want a resurrection of the 9/11 commission, that he calls
for in his piece though, to investigate. 




"Rich Gauszka"  wrote in message
news:45174a74$1{at}w3.nls.net...
> Everyone has an agenda whether it be in journalism, government, religion
> or 
>
> I'll agree that the NIE's recent record hasn't been top notch
>
> http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,,1880275,00.html
> Its record, however, has been patchy. A NIE report issued in 2002
> concluded that Iraq had "continued its weapons of mass destruction
> programmes", had biological and chemical weapons and
"probably will have a
> nuclear weapon during this decade". A July 2004 NIE report concluded that
> the possible outcomes in Iraq ranged from a government with tenuous
> control to civil war..
>
>
> "Mark"  wrote in message
news:4517473a$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>> The NYTs has reported the equivalent of:
>>
>> "John Smith," on a hunting trip, wielded an axe and
chopped off the leg
>> of a rival hunter. Making "John Smith" a villain.
>>
>> Of course the rest of the story, not worthy of publication when you're
>> doing agenda driven "journalism" is that they'd been
rival hunters for 30
>> years, were good friends that graduated high school together, and that a
>> grizzly bear was chomping down on the rival hunter's knee, thus the
>> "be-legging" saved same rivals life. > villain>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Rich Gauszka"  wrote in message
>> news:4517452d$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>>> GMAB it's a 30 page report titled "Trends in Global Terrorism:
>>> Implications for the United States," and the CONCLUSION has been
>>> reported
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Mark"  wrote in message
news:45173e71{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>> Nope, not at all Rich. You should know by now that the NYTs is
>>>> extremely biased and that the full report will be considerably more
>>>> complex than what they chose to publish from their leakers in the
>>>> government. It's about time the leakers were rounded up
and prosecuted
>>>> along with the NYTs. This shit is both dangerous and very old.
>>>> >>> breath>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Rich Gauszka"  wrote
in message
>>>> news:45173c98$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>>> Ah - so we should ignore the assessment as the report is still
>>>>> classified? Of course since it represents a CONSENSUS 
perspective of
>>>>> all 16 U.S. intelligence agencies it's sort of difficult for the
>>>>> Bushies to ignore  
>>>>> .
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Mark"  wrote in message
>>>>> news:45173a22{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>>>> The NYTs leaks yet another selective portion of a
still classified
>>>>>> report and the usual suspects get their panties
all in a bunch over
>>>>>> it. When will you guys stop letting
"Pinch" jerk your chains and play
>>>>>> you for fools?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Phil Payne"
 wrote in message
>>>>>> news:45159f73{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>>>>>
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/24/world/middleeast/24terror.html?ei=509
4&en=003f596f66422cfd&hp=&ex=1159070400&partner=homepage&pagewanted=print
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> WASHINGTON, Sept. 23 - A stark assessment of
terrorism trends by
>>>>>>> American
>>>>>>> intelligence agencies has found that the
American invasion and
>>>>>>> occupation of
>>>>>>> Iraq has helped spawn a new generation of
Islamic radicalism and
>>>>>>> that the
>>>>>>> overall terrorist threat has grown since the
Sept. 11 attacks.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>  Phil Payne
>>>>>>>  http://www.isham-research.co.uk
>>>>>>>  +44 7833 654 800
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

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