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to: Geo
from: Adam
date: 2006-09-18 11:23:40
subject: Re: Interesting effect. El nino or Global Warming?

From: Adam 

Geo wrote:
> One storm, they point to one storm as proof of anything? Come on Adam, last
> year you were pointing at the fact that we used up the whole alphabet naming
> storms, this year we are up to Helene, so why is that not considered proof
> by you now?
>

Nope.

http://www.usatoday.com/weather/hurricane/2006-09-04-john-mexico_x.htm

"Flash flooding triggered mudslides that trapped vehicles in Southern
California as the fading remnants of Hurricane John doused part of the
Southwest.

Eight separate mudslides covered a stretch of road in the San Jacinto area
with up to 6 feet of mud and rocks Monday afternoon, trapping 19 vehicles
but causing no injuries, said Riverside County Fire Captain Bret Cerini.

Cerini said most of the vehicles were driven out but crews had to pull one
car from deep mud.

Hurricane John, which pounded parts of Mexico with up to 20 inches of rain,
didn't directly cause the California rain but its remnants helped push
tropical moisture into the region, said meteorologist Ted Mackechnie at the
National Weather Service.

"It kicked up the moisture and helped (the moisture) spread into our
area," Mackechnie said.

Normally dry southern New Mexico got enough rain from the storm system to
cause isolated road flooding Monday, and southern Arizona had scattered
rain.

In Texas, a half-mile section of Interstate 10 near downtown El Paso was
closed by water Monday morning, police spokesman Javier Sambrano said. A
Continental Airlines jet got stuck in mud Monday at El Paso International
Airport when it strayed off a taxiway, airline spokeswoman Julie King said.
No one was hurt."

Lane was straight after John.

Adam

> Geo.
>
> "Adam" <""4thwormcastfromthemolehill\"{at}the
field.near the bridge"> wrote in
> message news:450d154b$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>> The Atlantic hurricanes have been suppressed by the start of el nino &
>> those which have occurred have been kept off shore by the Bermuda high
>> but on the west coast of Mexico...
>>
>>
>
http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=topNews&storyID=2006-09-1
6T221008Z_01_N15440511_RTRUKOC_0_US-WEATHER-MEXICO.xml&WTmodLoc=NewsHome-C1-top
News-9
>> "CULIACAN, Mexico (Reuters) - Powerful Hurricane Lane thrashed western
>> Mexico on Saturday, threatening tens of thousands of people with flash
>> floods after a rampage along the Pacific coast that killed a child.
>>
>> The storm, a dangerous Category 3 hurricane, slammed into a low-lying
>> coastal area between the northwestern city of Culiacan and the tourist
>> resort of Mazatlan.
>>
>> Rain fell in Culiacan, capital of Sinaloa state, and shopkeepers rushed
>> to tape up store windows to prevent them from shattering in winds that
>> reached nearly 120 mph (195 mph) further down the coast.
>>
>> A Category 3 storm can cause extensive damage.
>>
>> "We are very worried because it is not only coming with high winds but
>> with an impressive amount of rain," Culiacan's mayor, Aaron Irizar
>> Lopez, told Mexican radio.
>>
>> He said between 40,000 and 50,000 people in Sinaloa who live near rivers
>> and streams might be at risk. Many of the state's reservoirs were in
>> danger of overflowing, he said.
>>
>> The storm had been expected to move up through the Sea of Cortez and
>> make landfall farther north on Sunday but it swung suddenly to the east
>> and crashed into the coastline.
>>
>> "It's not normal for a hurricane to hit here," said Jose
Lopez, 48, the
>> manager of a Culiacan shoe store. "We've been preparing for it since 11
>> in the morning, when we heard it was coming.""
>>
>> Last time it was Baja california etc. I wonder if San Diego & LA will
>> get hit?
>>
>> Already we're seeing a "monsoon effect" wrt arizona,
nevada etc i.e. as
>> the Western US heats up the mucho like inland Asia, it is dragging in
>> wet sea air et voila monsoon rains. Who knows, global warming might turn
>> Las Vegas into a swamp & make Arizona go green.
>>
>> It will be entertaining though if the US wakes up (post El nino) to
>> violent hurricanes from NY to the rio grande in Texas & from San Diego
>> to San Francisco.
>>
>> Adam
>
>

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