From: Gene McAloon 

On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 15:42:45 -0500, "Mark Hessey"
 wrote:

>Technically I suppose it could, but in reality it would not. Don't forget
>the most important aspect of all in regards to Iraq: a decade of resolutions
>that were not working and never would have. While we spent billions doing
>flyovers, Saddam lined the pockets of our future adversaries in the security
>council - that's more than enough justification alone. Next up is the hard
>choice of mucking around with Kim Jong Il for another decade without
>progress or prompting another choice with heavy participation from China -
>waiting makes him more dangerous than he is now and kills many more than the
>1,000 a month that Saddam was slaughtering (120,000+ while we had our jets
>shot at for a decade). To me that makes waiting criminal.

It is amazing how many lies can be packed into one paragraph.

The UN resolutions worked perfectly. There are no WMD and it was the UN
inspectors who got rid of them with the cooperation of Saddam no less.
After the
first Gulf war the containment of Iraq was complete and the country
represented no threat even to its neighbors, let alone to the US.  Those
are the facts.

Your claim that Saddam lined the pockets of "our future adversaries in
the Security Council" is a charge never heard before and ludicrous on
the face of it. During the containment years, not a cent went to any of our
alleged adversaries on the Security Council and couldn't under the UN
resolutions that ended the first war and established the sanctions.

The flyovers were illegal under both international and US law. They were
initiated by Bush I unilaterally without UN approval. The Iraqis had every
right
shoot at those planes and couldn't have been faulted under any law for
bringing some of the them down. At that, when the Shiites, following Bush
I's urgings, revolted against Baghdad, Bush I called off the southern
flyovers temporarily to
allow Saddam to crush the rebellion, which of course he had every right to
do under anyone's law. It was during the crushing of that revolt that the
tens of thousands of Shiites were killed, which makes your fatuous claim
that Saddam was
routinely slaughtering 1000 people a month a huge lie.

North Korea was no threat either. His program for producing WMD was curtailed by
Clinton and it worked. It fell apart only when Bush II called off the continuing
talks, claiming that he doesn't trust Communists and will not talk to them.
When the N. Koreans blithely announced they would continue their WMD as the
only
way to protect themselves from Bush, Bush blinked. He is now talking to N.
Korea, while begging N. Korea's neighbors for help in the new negotiations
to resolve the problem he had created.

I might be more polite about this and say only that you are spinning at an
outrageous level, but that is what administration people do to protect
their political asses. What is your excuse?  You have none. Of course with
you radical-right types it is always hard to tell when you are lying and
when you are speaking out of total ignorance.  In your particular case, I
am not quite sure as yet.  Maybe it is a little of both.

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