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to: Bob Lawrence
from: Frank Malcolm
date: 1997-02-02 14:56:32
subject: EML (Eight Minute Limit)

Hi, Bob.

BL>  FM> According to my end, it was maybe 60% through the last file and
BL>  FM> it said "Transfer aborted" and then hung up.

BL>  BL> This is very instructive. If I ever run a BBS, I'll use a
BL>  BL> separate machine running DOS. OS/2 seems to have the odd bug...

BL>  FM> Yeah, although I'm not sure that it's an OS/2 bug in this case.

BL>   Yair... Telix is very buggy (grin).

Paul has suggested a crossed line.

BL>  FM> Several of our fellow-TML friends seem to run it more-or-less
BL>  FM> successfully, but I wouldn't touch it myself 'cos a)
BL>  FM> bugs/instability, b) learning curve to use it, c) incredible
BL>  FM> difficulty in installing (and you've no doubt seen some of the
BL>  FM> comments in AvTech, including yours), d) lack of apps and e)
BL>  FM> why bother if you've got something that works.

BL>   It's odd that some people run OS/2 very well, and then suddenly lose
BL> it. This happened to the PCUG when they changed computer. A reliable
BL> multi-line system suddenly went insane.

Your punctuation is at fault. You should have said...

BL>   It's odd that some people run OS/2.

BL>  FM> I won't go to Win95 either, for a), b), maybe c) and e) - until
BL>  FM> dragged kicking and screaming by lack of support for the old
BL>  FM> O/S or features which I think I need, not just bells &
BL>  FM> whistles.

BL>   Yair... that's my attitude entirely. I keep waiting to see what
BL> happens next. I did that with the original Windows and saved myself a
BL> lot of grief. I realise that I'll have to upgrade eventually...

I actually ran the "original" Windows - 2.something (I don't know if
there was a 1.x). It was "built in" to Excel of the same era which I
needed to run to look at some .XLSs I had. You thought you were firing
up Excel (from the DOS prompt) but it actually ran Windows 2.x and then
Excel within that.

BL>  FM> I skipped DOS 4 entirely and so far have resisted DOS 6(.xx);
BL>  FM> still use Word 2 and have no need to change - I actually don't
BL>  FM> *like* the Word 6 interface.

BL>   My feeling exactly. I don't like Word 2 all that much either, but
BL> at least I'm used to it. That was the reason I started to learn

I like it, it does everything I want reasonably easily and quickly. The
bells & whistles in Word 6 clutter and complicate it (IMHO) for no
added functionality, and some of the things I want to do seem to have
disappeared - they're certainly not in the menus where they used to be.

BL> programming this time... to write a proper, small, wordprocessor. If I

Yeah, what happened to that project? :-)

BL> ever do go up to Win95 and the new programs, it will be with a much
BL> better computer. I don't think I could stand it if I loaded new
BL> software and it ran like a slug again. It's only now with a 486/100
BL> and 24Mb of RAM that Word2 and AutoCad is running at the right speed.

BL>  FM> Might have to try and run both soon though, 'cos Rosie started
BL>  FM> uni on Tuesday and I think they use it.

BL>   Jeeze... what happened to Xmas? What course is she doing?

Bachelor of Accounting at UTS. It's a "fast-track" course so everything
is squashed into 2-1/2 years, hence the early start. It still takes 3
years to complete though, because they get to spend 2*3 months or so
actually working in one of the firms who've sponsored her scholarship.

Has the shits of course, as most of her mates are at the beach until
March. :-)

BL>  FM> Still use PKT2QWK etc too, in spite of Paul's exhortations to
BL>  FM> get "proper software", because it *works* and I
understand it.

BL>   Me too. I have great respect for what works...

Regards, fIM.

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