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echo: locsysop
to: Bob Lawrence
from: John Tserkezis
date: 1997-05-27 01:27:59
subject: UUCP!!!

-=> Quoting Bob Lawrence to John Tserkezis <=-

Hello Bob,

 RS> There is also normally a full message ID which allows complete
 RS> threading etc too.
 
 JT> Ok, my next question is, if there IS enough information in the
 JT> public message as to who that message is intended for, the WHY
 JT> didn't they already write this into the gating software?

 BL> There isn't... I've been reading scads of messages. Some have To:
 BL> information and some don't. We need an extra line in the header. The
 BL> header is just text, and is ended by a blank line. Some messages then
 BL> have a source which is probably derived from the header in the message
 BL> to which they are replying... but that may not be the person to whom
 BL> you are sending the reply!

 Yeah, I think it refers to the person who started the thread, and going on
the goings-on in avtech and such, the "thread" changes thread
many many times
even though the subject remains the same. :-)

 BL> There is only one solution... we need to add a To: line and it has
 BL> to be in the header.

 Ok, getting your software to do it would be the ideal solution, and the gating
softare to take advantage of this as well.  This is why I prefer PD or GNU
software.  You can change/add/remove whatever without re-inventing the wheel.
I've come close to doing that....
 
 JT> There is more than one gating package out there, ALL of them do
 JT> the same, address the message to all.

 BL> As I have since discovered. The UUCP format is flawed.

 UUCP is only a million years old.  It started out as a way for different unix
machines to talk to each other.  This was in the days before tcpip and live
links as they are used today.

 The reason it is not any better today, is because, the alternative to UUCP,
(live links) have become so common, it is not warranted to "revamp" UUCP.
 Sure, in our case, it may warrant using another form and call it UUCP+ or
whatever.
 Depending on how popular the store-and-forward method becomes, it may happen
too.  But, going on what has happened in the past, I don't see there being any
increase in demand for a better UUCP.  If we want a better one, we'll have to
invent it ourselves.

John Tserkezis, Sydney, Oz. Fidonet: 3:712/610  Internet: jt{at}suburbia.com.au

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