"John Edser"  wrote in message
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> JMcG:-
> The authors of this paper are wasting their time.  They are 
> trying to define altruism in the context of Darwin's flawed 
> understanding of NS.  Darwin assumed that individuals were 
> the focus of NS.  He also assumed that individuals were 
> discreet entities.  Darwin was wrong on both counts.  NS has 
> no focus.  
> 
> JE:-
> Using McGinn's "epistemology" NS can _never_ constitute 
> a testable theory of nature. Thus talking to Sai Baba about 
> evolutionary theory is the same as talking to JMcG about
> it....

John, your thinking comprises numerous overarching analogies 
and bad metaphors.  You use language badly and it causes you 
to think your thinking is logical when in actuality it is 
mostly nonsense.  As I've done with Felsenstein and Moran's 
thinking, I force you to reveal your assumptions and maintain 
the same definitions at the end of your argument that you 
introduced at the beginning of your argument.  The result is 
always the same: your thinking is revealed as little more 
than a misguided attempt to force observed reality to conform 
with your theory-based simplifications.  As scientists we are 
supposed to adjust theory to match reality, not the other way 
around.  Inevitably, discussions with you evolve into shouting 
and hand-waving on your part based on new scientific principles 
that you, obviously, just pulled out of your ass.   

[moderator's now now: Now, now. Let's have a little nicer tone,
shall we? We can disagree without being disagreeable. - JAH]

Jim
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