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from: R Norman
date: 2004-02-16 07:29:00
subject: Re: The fact of evolution

On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 07:32:43 +0000 (UTC), "John Edser"
 wrote:

>
>
>>RN:-
>>Evolution is a fact because we have direct evidence of change in
>>heritable features over time. 
>
>>JE:-
>>Incorrect. "Evolution is a fact because we have direct evidence 
>>of" A NON RANDOM "change in heritable features over time".
>
>>RN:-
>>Simply put, evolution explains what we see and there is no competitive
>>explanation that has any shred of scientific validity.
>
>>JE:-
>>Random changes on their own, do not have 
>>"any shred of scientific validity" .
>
>RN:-
>Everyone in the known universe except you understands probabilistic
>phenomena and accepts drift as a legitimate mechanism of evolution.
>
>
>JE:-
>Well, isn't it just amazing that RN knows
>"everyone in the known universe"! Perhaps
>RN is an associate of Sai Baba who wrote:
>"There are those who think that the world 
>exists and that the world is real. There 
>are others who think that the world does 
>not exist and that the world is not real. 
>Rare indeed is that blessed one who does 
>not think, But who is ever calm, abiding 
>in the Absolute."
>
>
>If you wish evolutionary theory to remain
>a testable view of science so that it
>never again becomes just post modern 
>clay for group selective maniacs like 
>Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol pot etc, etc,
>then we will have to re-educate "everyone 
>in the known universe" to independently
>THINK, won't we...
>

John clearly is not amused by the rhetorical device called
"hyperbole".  Clearly I don't mean literally everyone in the universe.
I simply mean everyone in the universe with a clear understanding of
science and evolution.  Yes, I do personally know all of them.
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