Harry Travis wrote as follows on 13/01/06 19:34:

> Sorry. The brands you cite are brands that advertised heavily, and then
> are priced to pay for that advertising.


    Of course, I did not know that these brands were "advertised 
heavily", but the extra cost of advertising may be only a few dollars 
per unit if their volume is sufficiently high.

>
> Of course, a brand that is 60-70% the price of others for the same
> nominal spec must have cut corners in this very competitive market.


    Sorry, I don't see why a nominal spec is an important comparator?  I 
would think that the average & variance in outputs plus the mean time 
between failure would be more important indicators.

> But, pay 2-3 times normal? I'd suggest that before doing so, there are
> used PS's to be recycled.


    Okay, but to get back to my original question, which brand & model 
of used PSUs should a person consider?

>
> said Harry, stirred by:
> Kenn Yuill 's message of:
> Friday 13 Jan 06 at 07:13 PM,
> On: Re: [OS2HW] PSU prices
> [echoed below, at least in part]
>
> --------
>
> Felix Miata wrote as follows on 13/01/06 16:50:
>
> >arry Travis wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >>> Ray Davison wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >>> Actually there's more. Shop by weight. You need some
copper in there
> >>> for it to be good. The light ones are the cheap ones,
regardless of
> >>> brand and price, but the low price ones tend to be the lightest 
> ones,
> >>> those most likely to fall short of their advertised specs, or to 
> fail
> >>> prematurely and destroy your motherboard, CPU & RAM
in the process.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >>> Better engineering can lead to weight reduction. Switching 
> supplies are,
> >>> after all, about size and weight reduction. Money into weight 
> reduction
> >>> means a saving in shipping, maybe several times.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Can and do aren't the same thing. I have many puters, and have had and
> >repaired many more. The heavy power supplies are the ones that last
> >longer than the rest of the system, and then some. The lightweights are
> >the ones that when they die, as often they do, kill motherboards, CPUs
> >and RAM, all of which cost a LOT more than the little bit of money you
> >"save" buying a $20 lightweight power supply instead of
a heavier $40
> >power supply, not to mention troubleshooting problems caused by the
> >cheapies' out of tolerance operating characteristics.
> >
>
>  Not being up-to-date on PSUs, heavyweight versus lightweight
> descriptors doesn't mean as much to me as names of brands &/or models,
> especially if a vendor stocks only one make or type. I know about "PC
>  Power & Cooling" as a desirable brand plus "Quiet
PC" & "SilentMaxx"
> have been mentioned here or elsewhere as quality brands. I have a
> heavy "Enhance" AT-class in my old Gateway from 1989, which worked
> fine in 2001, but is likely obsolete now.
>  Although this request has probably been made in the past, would
> anyone suggest some reliable brands/models for this
> knowledge-challenged user?


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         Kenn
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