On 18 Sep 96, Kevin Daly wrote to John Giannini:
 JG>> You know, this is just more delay.  You certainly didn't mention any
 JG>> of *this*  stuff in your first message.  You just breezily came along
 JG>> and criticized MY  message, saying "Gee, I can get this stuff ANY TIME
 KD>  First off, BITE ME.  Second off, get over it.
Sounds to me like someone wanting to back out of a committment.  A 
committment they made of their own free will.  A committment they can't keep.
I remember in my first message to you, I almost apologized for the risk of 
putting you on the spot here in public, about getting me those Disney tapes, 
but I wanted to get a message to you as quickly as possible.  3 months later 
I still don't have any movies from you, and you're bailing.  The public has 
gotten to see how reliable you are.  It was never my intent to injure your 
reputation here, but it looks like you've shown everyone what your own 
credibilility is like.  I will no longer persue these movies with you, as now 
it is obvious you were not telling the truth.  And I guess I should apologize 
for putting you on the spot, too.  Since the movies don't exist at the price 
you mentioned, I inadvertantly backed you into a corner by going public, and 
I certainly can't expect you to go buy the movies for a hundred bucks each 
and sell them to me at 10 bucks.  Of course, in my own defense, I have to say 
that I'd not have done that had you not been so critical of what I was asking 
for some of the sealed movies I have, or not been so critical of what 
collectors buy and sell for in the first place.
 KD> If you are so F**&&$% intent on getting the damn movies, see my post
 KD> with the directions to the Flea Market and go your F##^&*( self.
Your use of implied vulgarity is not appropriate for this echo.  You're 
really doing a trash job on your own reputation here Kevin; do you have an 
"electronic" death wish or something?
 JG>> I just have to wonder if the whole offer you made was false in the
 KD>  I din't make an offer.
Would you like to me to re-quote the message where you SAID you *would* 
obtain those movies for me??  It was crystal clear, not hazy at all.  Right 
there.  I archive this echo, (one of several I archive) and I would be 
delighted to throw your own words back at you, if you really want me to...
 KD>  Non-collector of fictitious collectibles.  I have most of the Disney
 KD>  movies, and they are for watching, not collecting.
Your opinion.  And it is an opinion not shared by many.
 JG>> until you do, I  will place absolutely and utterly no validity or
 JG>> credibility to your message  criticizing collector values of Disney
 JG>> tapes, or my prices either, because you  haven't shown anyone you can
 KD>  Breaks my heart.  So now I have as much credibility with you as you do
 KD> with me.
More evidence of your lack of insight.  You say I also have no credibility. 
Well, based on what?  I didn't do anything to injure MY crediblity, son.
I have never made any promises which I couldn't keep, so my credibility is 
perfectly intact.  It was you that made promises and bailed.  (Specifically, 
you made a promise to ME, and bailed.  And everyone's seen it.)   Your 
credibility is shot because you yourself shot it, sir.  My credibility isn't 
damaged at all because I have never made a committment to you or anyone on 
this echo that I was either unable to keep, or which turned out to be a lie.
The one thing I said I would do as far as you go, was send you the money for 
the movies as soon as you advised me you had the movies to ship me.  Now, if 
you had gone out and gotton those movies, and then I failed to send the 
money, as promised, you would've had me.  And if that had happened, and if 
you had gone public with that situation, if it happened, then my own 
credibility would have been the credibility that wouldn've gotten shot.  But 
we never got to that, because you never told me to send the money, because 
you never got the movies.  Of course, if you HAD gotten the movies, then I 
would most definitly have sent the money just as promised, so again, my 
credibility would have remained intact.
I must therefore assume that you are saying I have no credibility with you, 
NOT because of anything specific I did, like not keeping my word or 
something, but becuase you are just being a child and essentially name 
calling.
So, to finish this unpleasant thread Kevin, the only person here who'se 
demonstrated they couldn't keep their word is you, and now I'd like to get 
back to the enjoyable discussion of Disney stuff, if you don't mind.  This 
thread is ended.  I am quite certain Mr. Koster is not going to be happy as 
it is, with these last 2 messages of mine, but what you did deserved to be 
addressed, and now that it is, it is done and over, and I won't be revisiting 
this thread no matter how you might reply to this message.
....And they danced and lived happily ever after in the magic castle....
--- GoldED 2.50
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