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to: TODD BOYD
from: MICHEL SAMSON
date: 2004-11-01 10:58:00
subject: Web access, false BBS ID

Hi Todd,

     About "Web access, false BBS ID" of October 29:

TB> ...i remember being able to do it while i still had win98.
SD> ...ZModem is one of the worst protocols to use over telnet...
TB> ...why aren't you guys just using NTP to begin with?

     It's coming late but i thought that, if i were to reply, i'd answer
i never heard of this `Nemesis Transfer Protocol'.  When nerds were busy
inventing `Kermit' (while i played with `Z-80' code, not BBSing), MoDems
crawled beyond belief, no hobby justified the co$t of a 16-Bits PC and i
focussed on things like the next album or event by Gary Numan, anyway...

     My age must be showing (at that time you weren't borned yet) but it
turns out i discovered `Kermit' only after it evolved for over a decade;
i intervein in related threads simply because it's what i can help with.

                                  %-)

MS> ...disapearance of local DialUp BBSes...  ...transition to ~TelNet~
MS> was relatively easy.  The real challenge was ~OLMR~ BBSing...  And
MS> now...  there's more to come:  ~WEB~ access...  ...and then ~SSH~...
TB> The transition to ssh from telnet is practically nothing.

     Yes, it's fairly easy if one has bought $hareWare like `Zap-O-Com'.

TB> The technologies are strikingly similar.

     Yes, that's what i've heard but ~RLogIn~ would be closer, it seems.

TB> I just look at ssh like a secure telnet session.

     I would as well if i happened to use `ZOC', which i don't since the
whole `W32' OS itself is rarely running when i manage my correspondance.

TB> It has the same ansi graphics, etc...

     I went even further by suggesting it would be interactive enough to
~TelNet~ to an ~FTP~ server equiped with a .QWK command-set extension...

     Many protocols have ties with ~TelNet~, which is why i've been able
to read/post ~NNTP~ articles using `MS-Kermit' as a terminal emulator, a
few years ago;  i wouldn't campaign against usage of ~SSH~ or ~HTTPS~, i
just prefer to promote various ways to make the UpGrade Path smoother...

                                    Salutations,  :)

                                    Michel Samson
                                    a/s Bicephale
                                    http://public.sogetel.net/bicephale/


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