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from: Anon.
date: 2004-02-28 15:37:00
subject: Re: Dawkins on Kimura

Larry Moran wrote:
> On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 16:44:30 +0000 (UTC), 
> Anon.  wrote:
> 

>>>Tim seems to be making the default assumption that most morphological
>>>features are due to natural selection. Dawkins certainly makes that 
>>>assumption. Is this valid? 
>>>
>>
>>Well, it's valid.  Is it correct?  My feeling is that it is, but if 
>>someone show me evidence that it isn't, then I'll change my mind.
> 
> 
> I can understand your "feeling." Since we don't have very
good evidence
> one way of the other is it valid science to rely on
"feeling"? Why are 
> you asking for experimental evidence against your feeling? I could just
> as easily state that most features are due to drift and it's up to you 
> to prove otherwise. Would that be an example of good science?
> 
> Why don't we just say that morphological features can become fixed in
> a population by adaptation - and quote some known expamples. We don't
> know if *most* morphological features are due to adaptation or whether
> they are accidents of evolution. 
> 
The problem with that is that it seems unlikely that most traits will 
have become fixed, because most traits have a function.  If you're 
saying that they became fixed by drift, then you're invoking a rather 
strange form of the blind watchmaker.

Bob

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