DL> VF> People who are suicidal have _problems_. Period. Trying to avoid 
heir
DL> VF> problems with cutesy politically-correct and mind-numbing adjectives
DL> VF> doesn't help them - or their problems. They're not functioning 
properly
DL> VF> in society. THey do not perform to the social norm. They are, in 
short,
DL> VF> mentally ill. Sick. In need of help.
DL>I don't see why everyone MUST conform to the social "norm".  Why not let
DL>people be who they are, if they're "normal" in societies view or not.  I
DL>personally think that society is sick; with the emphasis being on looking
DL>good, getting as much money as you can, and stock pilling material things.
There is no mental "norm" and never has been.  What there has been until
the fundamentalists of all kinds decided to assume control of politics,
was some boundaries over which humans did not cross without retribution.
There was a ban on child molestation and rape.
We are the only species which destroys large amounts of ourselves.
Other mamals, birds, and insects do not make war on their own kind.
I frankly do not trust and refuse to accept the labels that any
fundamentalist puts on other humans.
And that can be stretched to apply to those who use the fundamentals of
what is laughingly called mental health also.
DL>We don't need all that society tries to push upon us.  It is this
DL>normalness that is killing us all slowly.  Now, am I mentally ill for
DL>thinking this way?  I think not.  I know that you were talking about
DL>suicidal people, which I am not, but I thought I'd put in my two cents.
DL>... A dry sense of humor is better than slobbering everywhere
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