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to: Adam
from: Rich Gauszka
date: 2006-10-13 19:36:58
subject: Re: CIGS says leave Iraq

From: "Rich Gauszka" 

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061013/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq_basra_2

To tell the truth, (the British) have caused the chaos and the security
decline in southern
Iraq, especially Basra, by their leniency with the militias and their
parties," said Ghali Nijm, head of the Shiite Wifaq party in Basra.

Added Aqil Talib, a member of the Basra provincial council from the Shiite
Fadila party: "The British presence is no longer desired, as is that
of the Americans and others, even though the British are kinder than the
Americans."

"Adam"  wrote in message
news:452f2fbe$1{at}w3.nls.net...
> Gee Geo S.....you were saying who holds such views well....
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6046332.stm
>
> "The presence of UK armed forces in Iraq "exacerbates the security
> problems" and they should "get out some time soon", the
head of the
> British Army has said.
>
> Chief of the General Staff Sir Richard Dannatt told the Daily Mail that
> the military campaign fought in 2003 had "effectively kicked the
door in".
>
> He also said that initial planning for the post-war period had been poor.
> "
>
> "In his interview, Sir Richard added that any initial tolerance "has
> largely turned to intolerance. That is a fact".
>
> Sir Richard, who took on his role in August, also said planning for what
> happened after the initial successful war military offensive was "poor,
> probably based more on optimism than sound planning".
>
> 'Not invited in'
>
> He said: "I don't say that the difficulties we are experiencing round the
> world are caused by our presence in Iraq but undoubtedly our presence in
> Iraq exacerbates them."
>
> Sir Richard told the newspaper: "We are in a Muslim country and Muslims'
> views of foreigners in their country are quite clear.
>
> "As a foreigner, you can be welcomed by being invited in a country, but we
> weren't invited certainly by those in Iraq at the time."
>
> He added: "Whatever consent we may have had in the first place, may have
> turned to tolerance and has largely turned to intolerance." "
>
> But hey what would CIGS know.
>
> Adam

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