In a message of to James Dunlop (), you wrote:
JD> Somehow, I don't think the fourth best first baseman in the
JD> American League should be an MVP candidate. Thomas, McGwire and
JD> Vaughn are all clearly better than Palmeiro. This says something
JD> about those three, since Palmeiro is one heck of a player.
AH> The difference in this case is that Palmeiro's season may propel his
eam
AH> into the playoffs, which can't be said of the other three. Also, I
on't
AH> agree that those three are "clearly better" than Palmeiro this season.
Ed argued about Vaughn, and I'll agree that it's close. The others? Not
close to me at all.
First off, let me agree that Palmeiro's defense is better than the others,
but so what? A first baseman's defense doesn't make much of a difference
overall. You'd be hard pressed to show a significant advantage.
Offense. I have this week's BBW around here somewhere.
BA SLG OBA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB CS HOME ROAD
Palmeiro .289 .549 .384 550 96 159 37 2 34 128 85 82 7 0 .283 .296
Vaughn .316 .571 .415 557 106 176 26 1 38 122 88 136 2 0 .359 .275
Thomas .347 .592 .462 461 95 160 23 0 30 115 99 62 1 1 .324 .368
McGwire .324 .758 .472 376 96 122 19 0 48 100 100 101 0 0 .325 .324
Vaughn, by far, has done better at home than away (Fenway, in spite of
whatever wind tests are done, is still a good hitter's park). Possibly
enough that Palmeiro's better. But Thomas and McGwire? I'd be hard pressed
to see ANY advantage that Palmeiro has over them. The only advantage would
be in durability.
(Back to home/away advantages for a minute, BBW only puts in batting averages
for home and road games, the splits are listed in the table above.)
Regarding the MVP arguments, Thomas's season "might propel his team into the
playoffs" as well, and McGwire was one of the main reasons the A's lasted as
long as they did, doing far better than anybody thought they would. Even
Vaughn's team is in the hunt right now.
My MVP argument is always "who can be more valuable than the best player in
the league?" so my MVP choice will always be the player I feel is the best
one in the league that season. But if you include the "best player on a
playoff contender", shouldn't a candidate be at least the best player on his
team? Palmeiro isn't. I'd be hard pressed to call Palmeiro better than
Brady Anderson or Roberto Alomar this season. I think you're thinking about
Palmeiro a bit too much as a home town fan. But I doubt there are too many
people anywhere who would trade Palmeiro for Will Clark (Texas's mistake, and
Baltimore's good fortune.)
Rafael Palmeiro is a championship quality player (readers of Bill James's
work will recognize the phrase), but still is the third or fourth best at his
position in the league, and third best player on his team. This translates
into two "facts": the first basemen in the American League are exceptional,
and the Orioles have some mighty fine players.
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