From: "Gary Britt" 

No they've pushed for a constitutionally non-vague clear and definite
standard that any rational person could use to know how to conform their
conduct to the required lawful standards.

Gary

"Robert G Lewis"  wrote in message
news:4526ab4d{at}w3.nls.net...
> Actually the administration has pushed to use a narrower definition.
>
>
> "Gary Britt"  wrote in message
> news:4526a755$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>> Actually its the left that is pushing a far broader definition than is
>> required, reasonable, or in tune with the majority of Americans.
>>
>> Gary
>>
>> "Robert G Lewis"  wrote in message
>> news:45269a68{at}w3.nls.net...
>>> The problem is how does one define torture. The administration appears
>>> to have a far narrower definition than many of us.
>>>
>>>
>>> "Robert Comer"  wrote
in message
>>> news:452693de$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>>> Wrong.  Torture is illegal and nothing about that fact
has changed.
>>>>
>>>> I truly wish you were right.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Bob Comer
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Gary Britt"  wrote in message
>>>> news:452673a9$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>>> Wrong.  Torture is illegal and nothing about that fact
has changed.
>>>>>
>>>>> Gary
>>>>>
>>>>> "Robert Comer"
 wrote in message
>>>>> news:45264ab0$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>>>>> None of these CIA/FBI types want to end up in
prison on Bush's
>>>>>>> behalf so
>>>>>>> if they feel their back is not covered they'll
not engage in
>>>>>>> nastiness.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But now it is with the new law, the next Padilla
*will* be tortured.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Bob Comer
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Adam"
<""4thwormcastfromthemolehill\"{at}the field.near the
bridge">
>>>>>> wrote in message news:452608a9$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>>>>> Gary Britt wrote:
>>>>>>>> Almost certainly because he is a citizen traitor.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nope it's coz he was on US territory &
thus oddly protected (in
>>>>>>> theory)
>>>>>>> by an old piece of paper no matter what the
"Commander in Chief"
>>>>>>> might
>>>>>>> say. Course he was Latino so he couldn't
expect white boy niceness
>>>>>>> but...no waterboarding as that might well be
illegal under "cruel &
>>>>>>> unusual".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> None of these CIA/FBI types want to end up in
prison on Bush's
>>>>>>> behalf so
>>>>>>> if they feel their back is not covered they'll
not engage in
>>>>>>> nastiness.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Adam
>>>>>>>> Gary
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Adam"
<""4thwormcastfromthemolehill\"{at}the field.near the
bridge">
>>>>>>>> wrote in
>>>>>>>> message news:45259921$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>>>>>>> Gary Britt wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Padilla was never aggressively interrogated.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Gary
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Adam"
 wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:4524dbca$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>>>>>>>>> Gary Britt wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> We weren't talking about
American Citizens?  At least I wasn't?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Not even Padilla?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Adam
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Almost certainly because his
interrogators were worried about
>>>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>>>> legal position.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Adam
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
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