From: "Robert G Lewis" 

Good to see you no longer disagree with my statement.

"Gary Britt"  wrote in message
news:4526c129$1{at}w3.nls.net...
> No they've pushed for a constitutionally non-vague clear and definite
> standard that any rational person could use to know how to conform their
> conduct to the required lawful standards.
>
> Gary
>
> "Robert G Lewis"  wrote in message
> news:4526ab4d{at}w3.nls.net...
>> Actually the administration has pushed to use a narrower definition.
>>
>>
>> "Gary Britt"  wrote in message
>> news:4526a755$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>>> Actually its the left that is pushing a far broader definition than is
>>> required, reasonable, or in tune with the majority of Americans.
>>>
>>> Gary
>>>
>>> "Robert G Lewis"  wrote
in message
>>> news:45269a68{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>> The problem is how does one define torture. The
administration appears
>>>> to have a far narrower definition than many of us.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Robert Comer" 
wrote in message
>>>> news:452693de$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>>>> Wrong.  Torture is illegal and nothing about that
fact has changed.
>>>>>
>>>>> I truly wish you were right.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Bob Comer
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Gary Britt"  wrote in message
>>>>> news:452673a9$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>>>> Wrong.  Torture is illegal and nothing about that
fact has changed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gary
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Robert Comer"
 wrote in message
>>>>>> news:45264ab0$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>>>>>> None of these CIA/FBI types want to end up
in prison on Bush's
>>>>>>>> behalf so
>>>>>>>> if they feel their back is not covered
they'll not engage in
>>>>>>>> nastiness.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But now it is with the new law, the next
Padilla *will* be tortured.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Bob Comer
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Adam"
<""4thwormcastfromthemolehill\"{at}the field.near the
bridge">
>>>>>>> wrote in message news:452608a9$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>>>>>> Gary Britt wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Almost certainly because he is a
citizen traitor.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Nope it's coz he was on US territory &
thus oddly protected (in
>>>>>>>> theory)
>>>>>>>> by an old piece of paper no matter what
the "Commander in Chief"
>>>>>>>> might
>>>>>>>> say. Course he was Latino so he couldn't
expect white boy niceness
>>>>>>>> but...no waterboarding as that might well
be illegal under "cruel &
>>>>>>>> unusual".
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> None of these CIA/FBI types want to end up
in prison on Bush's
>>>>>>>> behalf so
>>>>>>>> if they feel their back is not covered
they'll not engage in
>>>>>>>> nastiness.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Adam
>>>>>>>>> Gary
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Adam"
<""4thwormcastfromthemolehill\"{at}the field.near the
bridge">
>>>>>>>>> wrote in
>>>>>>>>> message news:45259921$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>>>>>>>> Gary Britt wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Padilla was never aggressively
interrogated.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Gary
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "Adam"
 wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>> news:4524dbca$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>>>>>>>>>> Gary Britt wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> We weren't talking
about American Citizens?  At least I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wasn't?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Not even Padilla?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Adam
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Almost certainly because his
interrogators were worried about
>>>>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>>>>> legal position.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Adam
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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