SA>JK> "some of them who are scared enough be the incident to do something
SA>JK> to help themselves" indicates  a complete lack of information
SA>JK> concerning addiction.  And I will bet that there is no one on staff
SA>JK> at your hosptial who is a specialist in dealing with addicts.  The
SA>JK> closest will be some A.A. or N.A. group that come in.
SA>     I think this is rather short-sighted on your part, Jane, to presume 
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SA>because I used that quote the hospital I work with does not have adequate
SA>addiction counseling.
Adequate addiction counseling also includes staff training and inservice
education, not just contact with chemically addicted patients. There is
no use in having someone around with the knowledge if most folks on
staff do not know how to recognize what is wrong with a patient and who
to call in.
I once watched an officious doctor take control of the case where a man
was admitted after a car accident with a blood alcohol  level of .450.
The doctor ordered him to stop drinking and expected him to comply.  It
took another auto accident for the man to get into an inpatient
treatment agency.  And yes, alcoholics can walk around, drive cars, and
function just fine with a much higher blood alcohol level than so called
normal folks have ever experienced.
SA>     I am not an addiction counselor.  From what I understand, people
who ar SA>addicted often need a defining incident in their life to even
recognize the SA>for help.  I was suggesting that using maggots may be
such an incident...per SA>you disagree.  (in fact you probably do ;( )
I believe I said that I would not be able to stand it as a flea on me
drives me nuts until I find and kill it.
Also, if some poor patient has ever been close to DT's and maggots are
proposed, I would expect a lot of restraint be used to prevent him or
her from some physically aggressive act towards whoever proposed it. One
of the hallmarks of Delirium Tremens is the delusion that things could
be crawling around or be seen.
It is called "going snaky" in Alaska and in other places by chronic
alcoholics who have been there and back again.
Good luck in proposing the use of maggots to them.
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