VF> JK> "their own suicidal tendencies" is a blanket statement that just is
VF> JK> hogwash.  It connotates a mental health stigma on your part that 
hese
VF> JK> people simply do not deserve.
VF>Let me see - we're engineered to survive. You're telling me people who are 
a
VF>to over-ride this natural instinct aren't sick? Don't have baggage? Their 
co
VF>mechanisms are just fine, thank you? Uh-huh.
People who are under the influence of mind altering substances are sick,
allright, but not necessairly "mentally ill".  Any substance which is a
depressive, taken for a long enough period of time in one without the
brain and body chemistry to resist it will cause depression.  These
are called "sedative/hypnotic" and include both alcohol and
tranquilizers.
These folks are not mentally ill.  They are physically sick and can be
healed by detoxification and treatment of their addiction.  The
"mentally ill" cannot be treated the same way which is withdrawal from
drugs.  They will get sicker.
In fact, this is exactly the way definitive diagnosis is all too often
made.  Withdraw all drugs and put the person in a safe and protected
enviornment such as a small jail holding cell and monitor closely for a
few days.  Those with an addiction to chemicals will improve and become
sane, those who are mentally ill will get worse without the drugs they
require to stabilize their brain chemistry.
VF>People who are suicidal have _problems_. Period. Trying to avoid their 
probl
VF>with cutesy politically-correct and mind-numbing adjectives doesn't help 
the
VF>or their problems. They're not functioning properly in society.
It is necessary to figure out why they are suicidal and that doesn't
mean going back and finding out how they were potty trained.  It means
knowing if they are under the influence of any mind altering substances
and if so, for how long and in what amounts.  That is exactly why tox
screens are done in hospital emergency rooms and in jails when someone
presents with certain symptoms.
To rule in or rule out the possibility of drugs affecting the actions
of the person in question.
And if you knew one whit about what I am saying, you would not have
written what you did.
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